That was a nasty elbow on Talley. Given the Wolynik suspension, what is a proper punishment? Should there be any punishment? Personally, I think a three game suspension and thousand dollar fine would be appropriate.
So an intentional, retaliation elbow is deserves a less punishment than an accidental elbow while trying to win a header on a 50-50 ball?
Flip the players around. If Talley had taken Ruiz out with that elbow you would be screaming for a suspension. Accidental? No.
Nothing Ruiz does is an accident, from his flopping all over the field to draw penalties to his cheap thuggery.
You mean like in Week One vs Columbus when he took an elbow from McBride on the same type of play, that fractured a molar? No, I didn't call for a suspension then either.
Did he take an elbow or was the Crew player shoved into him by a Galaxy player? Does McBride have the same history of cheap shots and diving that Ruiz does?
Hey any LA fan that wants to defend this. I got the tape, you can see Ruiz throw his elbow back VERY hard toward Talley. It cant be argued one bit. Ruiz had better get fined if they're going to stay consistant. Having said that, lord knows they'll pull some ************ and sweep it under the rug.
We shall see. Hopefully everyone here who thinks so tells MLS. Here is the link and you can send a message just like I did. http://www.mlsnet.com/contact.html ----- I believe the play late in the match where Carlos Ruiz throws his arm and hits Talley in the face taking him out of the game should be reviewed. No call was made by the Referee who obviously didn't see the play but it is clearly visable from the broadcast on the shootout that I viewed last night. Based on past discipline decisions I believe a 1-3 game suspension and a $500-750 fine would be appropriate. Thank you for your time and consideration on this matter,
I sent my comments in, citing the Wolyniek suspension. And my opinions from watching the my tape of the game. I wont be surprised in either way on this one. I kinda thought that last week Ricardo Clark would get fined for punching Garcia in the nuts, but that never came about. So with MLS you just never know. They have to act fast though, as LA plays Wednesday.
Yea, here is my message I sent to MLS: Mommy, Ruiz is picking on me! signed...Bitter Whiz fan/hopeful Quake fan
Ruiz deserves 5 games for this crap. The league is letting him get away with murder: Has anyone noticed him getting more violent each game? If they let this go unchecked, I don't know what will happen next.
Of course. He should sit out the next game against the Quakes! In fact, Hartman should sit for playing on the same team as Ruiz. Actually, I hope Ruiz plays this week so that we can beat his a$$ at home in the Tool Shed...
You're right. And thank you for providing some needed perspective on this debate. Sincerely, Dema Kovalenko
While the actions of Ruiz are unexcussable, I think that Zach Thorton's beating on Guevara was a much serious offense (not even a yellow card given to big Zach). Also, Zotinca should be fined and suspended for the blatant forearm to Ruiz's face as payback for the alleged elbow thrown by Ruiz.
Do we need anti-Ruiz garbage posted every week? If he lays a pinky finger on someone, there are hordes that demand he be banned for life. I'm sick and tired of it. He plays with real passion and he hates to lose. That's all there is to it. Understand?
There's a difference between playing with passion and wanting to win, and elbowing another player in the head so hard that you send him off the field looking like he just went 10 rounds with lenox lewis.
Don't call him "cheap thuggery" just because he is from Central America. There is no question he needs to mature a little bit more, but "Pescadito" has given us plenty of emotions during his sting with MLS...
As a note to the naysayers, it seems that the "little bump" caused quite a bit of damage according to SoccerAmerica. "Carey Talley came away from a collision with Carlos Ruiz suffering from a fractured eye socket and had to be substituted."
That was also reported on MetroSports in KC today, the station that carries the Wizards and covers them through the season. Every single Ruiz apologist can now go to fvcking hell. The fact that you can blindly defend a player just because he's on your team when he breaks a guys face on (in an LA fan's terms) a routine 50/50 ball is unbelievable. I could care less anymore that the guy is a talented striker, he's one of the scum of this league. I hope MLS comes down hard on him, seeing no reason why they wouldn't.