Should Germany have 6 stars on shirt (3 for Europe)

I disagree with this. 1st, the world cup is the most important football competition in the world -though the European championship might be more difficult to win- and is the only competition where all -or at least most of- the top football nations of the world can play against each other, so success to this competition is more important than any other. 2nd, what about the countries outside Europe? Should for example Argentina put a star for every Copa America they have won? I doubt if there is enough space in their jersey for that.

 

To a Brazilian, Argentinian or even Ecuadorian, the Copa America is much more important to them than the Europcup. To an African or Asian, the same will apply to their own local competition. It would be European arrogance to say the Euro is more important than the other regional competitions.

Perhaps the countries could wear the stars on their jerseys equating to the titles they have won for a Eurocup during a Eurocup.

Trying to equate what competition is more important or less important is ridiculous.

 

...yes, and during the Euro qualification. Why not.

The Copa America countries could use their own scheme. Maybe a star with halo for 10 cups or something.

Since the Copa America is played about every two years with much less countries and no qualification tournament it is hard to compare to the Euro anyway.

 

This just smacks of European arrogance

 

I think the euros are as hard to win as a world cup, but there's no need.

Unless the stars are marked in a different colour to the gold stars, so that people know it's euros and not world cups.

Then maybe other confederations will follow.

 

That is what he suggested in the initial posting.

 

it"s still stupid. How often did Australia win the Oceanic soccer competition?

It's sort of a good German virtue not too brag around with accomplishments that are often overlooked (ie Euro record compared to other nations) too much, we should try too keep that.

 

4 times, out of 7.

And putting additional stars on the jersey would reek of insecurity, imho.

 

Yeah I don't think we need that really.

It's fine the way it is.

We're the shit and we and everyone else knows it anyway.

The only thing that annoys me sometimes is the stereotype of german style of football, but that apart...

 

... and they will not win it again because they moved to the AFC in 2005.

 

no, nobody else does this..it's standard to have the stars for world cup wins

there is one easy way to get more stars on the jersey...win another world cup (2010?)

 

Ok, that sounds like a brilliant idea.

 

What does that have to do with anything? Your post still smacks of ignorance.

 

Looking for support from Spain, are you?

Or the French? C'mon now...

I'll you you this, you are persistent but...Give it up, man!!!

 

the reason i don't care if we have the extra stars for the euros or not is because the majority of people around seem to know that germany have the best euro record by some distance (3 wins, 2 finals), as well as the fact that germany have been ridiculously consistent in world cups, with the most quarters, semis and equal most finals with brazil.

That germany have been considerably more consistent in world cups than italy, the majority of people are aware of.

To say that we're better at world cups than brazil is wrong because their record of quarters and semis are very nearly as good as ours (1 less in each), and they do have 2 more trophies in the same number of finals. But the difference between italy and germany, most people are aware of.

So the way it is is fine with me.

What I'd want to actually get across to people is the fact that for 75% of the last 45-50 years, germany have played swashbuckling, sometimes cavalier and always stylish, creative football, and that germany have scored 192 goals and conceded 120 in 92 world cup games. Hardly fits the stereotype does it. 1-0 win, yeah right.

Brazil have scored 201 and conceded 85 in 92 games. Now that fits the defensive stereotype better.

Those goals scored totals are miles ahead of the remainder of the teams.

I just love how when interviewed by fifa on receiving his mvp award, toni kroos was asked how this german team played what you would not describe as typically german football. He just dismissed it as "yeah I've heard that stereotype".

As far as I can see, the way they played, and the 20 goals scored and 11 conceded in 7 games fits the normal resume for a german team over the last 4-5 decades in a tournament.

 

In my opinion its much more difficult to win a Euro than a World Cup. You don't play teams like Costa Rica or Ecuador (2006) in the group stage. You directly get hard opponents like Holland or the Czechs (2004). But of course the World Cup counts more, so for me it's ok to wear only stars for WC's on the shirt...

 

Apparently some countries already wear non-WC stars. Egypt wears 4 stars for their Africa Cup titles. Uruguay wears 4 too for two world cups plus two olympic titles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_(football_crest)

And last but not least: Denmarks jersey in the Euro 2004:

 

I'm sure we will wear 6 stars in 2018.

 

At least the World Cup is a tournament everyone can win, so it makes at least some sense (not that I consider those stars to be really meaningful in any way). But desperately putting more stars onto the jersey because Italy now has one more is close to the kindergarten school of trying to impress people.

Alternate suggestions:
- putting a star on the jersey for every game Lothar Matthäus played in.
- printing "respect me... please?" on the front of the jersey.

 

Well, we all know what guys have if they drive a really nice car....