Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Suss, Dec 4, 2023.
you're saying we've turned a corner?
I agree, he was excellent.
Bit of hippy punching going there with Jurgen on reflection. I think everyone knew it was a joke, it wasn’t a dig at Jurgen or Liverpool, but he chose to go nuclear on the Amazon guy. Because there was nothing to lose really.
He wasn’t Sky or BBC and therefore someone he sees every week and with whom he would have a decent everyday working relationship. And he got to make his point to the TV people and the PL without saying it in such a way that would get him in trouble.
Definite hippy punching, but the Amazon guy gave him the opening.
what on earth is "hippy punching"?
I looked it up on the infamous "Wikipedia":
hippie punching: Criticism of the political left, especially when used to position oneself as a moderate.
is hippie different than hippy? - I don't see much how this applies to JK
There was a play in the first half when Archer was in on goal (Konate was caught out) and Van Dijk expertly cut off his passing lane to the back post before getting over to block his shot. The commentator went on and on trying to paint it as bad defending. It was absurd. According to him Van Dijk should have “dealt with the immediate danger.” That would have just resulted in the forward squaring it across for a tap in. He claimed it’s something that Virgil always does. It’s laughable that he is trying to tell one of the best defenders of all time how to defend.
Also punching down against someone who either can’t defend himself or makes no difference if he defends himself because of the status of the “puncher”. Or at least that’s the context in which I was using it.
I think he had been putting in the miles a lot lately. Up and down the pitch full-back is a tiring proposition, so Klopp (wisely enough) gave him a rest.
Jeez, though, Joe's passing in that first 1/2 hour was wonky-off......
anyhow .... the early starts isn't a joke to Klopp. the number of times we get saddled with fast turnarounds compared to our peers is 100% deliberate - he been complaining about it for years only to see it get worse and worse and see the physical strains it puts on his men. (look at our recent injury list and our long-term absentees. Matip the latest.)
the TV guy is supposed to be knowledgeable about the game, and 100% should have known better than to joke about it. which he realized instantly.
politicians and their media reps frequently rip newspeople for asking dumb or disrespectful questions. same thing here.
and he defended the situation with a block.
A lot of times some of these commentators come as if with pre-prepared notes to jabber on about....
You must think he's flippin Messi or Roberto Baggio if he could easily pull off a keeper chip there.... that weren't easy....
And Endo was damn good out there last night.... he's steady in that kind of game...
But that’s it. It was barely a joke. In my opinion, Klopp took the ever so slight opening given to him by Mr. Amazon and ran with it. There was no downside for him, as he was answering and bollocking Mr. Amazon while all the time addressing the FA/PL. To say to them what he said to Mr. Amazon, would have seen a fine/suspension, but he was “only talking” to Mr. Amazon, wasn’t he?
I’m not sure he would have done it on Sky or the BBC or with a name pundit, he has to work with them on a regular basis.
But Mr. Amazon Guy? Whose network has one(?) more set of games this season and none for the at least the next 5 seasons? The perfect fall guy. Pretty much a non-entity in football and off field footballing power.
Klopp is famous for preparation after all. But it did come off as hippy punching, perhaps bullying.
completely disagree about "bullying". the Tv guy is a gown man ffs.
and if Klopp took advantage to make a point that damn well needs making, good for him.
When he said this, I said this guy is an idiot!
seems that most tv game commentators think they are paid to spout verbal clickbait these days.
I'm not learning a damn thing in terms of tactics, formations, "insights" from an ex-pro. it's basically nonsense or asinine "banter" over and over. I spend at least 50% of every game with the sound muted.
Was thinking exactly the same thing.
Well not quite, I was actually thinking "there is a reason he's out there and you are in studio making dipshit comments, dumbass!"
Game before, FUBO had two lady commentators. Both were giving "breathless commentary" ..... soooooo painful to listen to!
For the avoidance of doubt, nothing against female commentators as there are a number of male commentators who have the same annoying trait!
LOL I thought they were pretty good, at least they didn't talk much nonsense (that I heard anyway).
no clue what their names were mind you.
last night's game the main comm was a woman, with some guy. no idea who they were either.
She was very good explaining what we’d just seen. Not a good as Lee Dixon he’s in a class of his own. She did raise the her voice ready to shriek anytime an attacker neared the goal.
If I can stay away from ESPN I know I can be avoid FUBO
When Virg was hunting that guy down to block his shot it was like a cheetah letting the gazelle think it had a chance….. then !!!
There are a couple of female PBP and color commentators on NBC Sports that I think do a fine job. They don’t talk too much, or come off as arrogant know-it-alls.
When I heard him say that, I thought "WTF are you talking about, Virg literally played that perfectly."
Yeah - the two commentators this weekend, always seem to shit on LFC.