News: Shalrie Joseph to Chivas USA

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  1. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Haven't found any linked articles yet but twitter claiming that it's a done deal. No word on what was exchanged either.
     
  2. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And by Twitter, you mean (who I assume to be) Shalrie's agent.
    230604596131790848 is not a valid tweet id

    I wonder if NER is still footing some of his wages, similar to the JPA-Chivas thing.

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    And now Ives is reporting it:
    http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2012/08/revs-set-to-deal-joseph-to-chivas-usa.html
     
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  3. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  4. gears

    gears Member

    Sep 1, 2010
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just what Chivas needed: more defense. Sources familiar with the situation confirmed Frasier is aiming to coach the only team in MLS history to have a negative GAA.

    Depending on how much salary New England is paying, though, this might be a good deal for Chivas.
     
  5. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Don't really get it from NE's point of view.
     
  6. manoa

    manoa Member

    Aug 16, 2005
    there are palm trees
    Interesting, as I really don't get it from CUSA's POV. Managing to accumulate 26 points after 20 games with just 14 goals scored is an amazing accomplishment, really, but it doesn't exactly scream out 'what this team lacks is an aging d-mid', either.
     
  7. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like a salary dump. Joseph is being paid for he played three years ago, not how he plays now.
     
  8. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Sharlie Joseph has had a decent run of games in recent seasons where he admirably stepped in and found success in a more forward position (in one of the many stretches when NE was struggling for goals themselves). Might be interesting to see how CUSA utilizes him.
     
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  9. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    "Deal now official, Chivas sends Blair Gavin, a second round pick and allocation money."
     
  10. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Shalrie is declining to the point that he's usually playing behind Clyde Simms. He has a sizable contract. He's been a big part of the Revs past, but he's not going to be a part of the next Revs team that's actually good. You might as well get something for him while you can before his value dries up entirely.

    Heaps has a big re-building project on his hands and one of his tasks is getting value for players who aren't part of the future.
     
  11. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Shrug. Perhaps I'm too sentimental.................

    Perhaps the front office could have re-negotiated his contract to allow him to finish his career with the Revs.

    Shipping an American player to ChivasUSA is like shipping an Englishman to Coventry.....................
     
  12. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I noticed he didn't start against Philly. Has that become the norm?
     
  13. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    He's Granadian.
     
  14. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He is no longer an automatic first choice starter. He has morphed into a utility player capable of filling in at multiple positions but no where near good enough to command a DP contract.

    As a Revs fan I am ok with the move but am interested to know the details (are the Revs eating some of his salary, how much allocation money came back etc), although I know we will never get those.
     
  15. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not sure Shalrie has much of an incentive to re-negotiate the last sizable contract of his career down.

    He's Grenadian-American now.
     
  16. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    From the Chivas USA perspective, I'm really having trouble making sense of this move.
     
  17. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    From FIFA's perspective (and that's the light in which read all BS content), he's cap-tied to Grenada.
     
  18. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, I was reading the comments from Clint Eastwood's perspective, since he was the one who made the initial comment.

    Shalrie has lived in the US for longer than he lived in Grenada. Since we're talking about a more personal, off-the-field issue (of moving late in your career), it's fair to consider him in an American context.
     
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  19. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    As a DP, would he have (or would his contract with MLS give him) the ability to block this trade?

    Perhaps he wants to relocate to LA from NE.

    Is it fair to say that Chivas USA likely has a better shot of reaching the MLS post-season before NE?

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/standings

    Regardless the "Shipping an American player to ChivasUSA is like shipping an Englishman to Coventry....................." comment is lacking some relevance, imo, given that sales of players overseas among clubs is somewhat different than how the centralized MLS single-entity handles contracts and assigns/trades players and "roster resources" among teams.
     
  20. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's nice to see Chivas is becoming a DP graveyard. All unwanted go to Chivas USA.
     
  21. RapidStorm

    RapidStorm Member+

    Jan 30, 2005
    Denver, CO
    Even in his current form, isn't Shalrie a step up from Zemanski and/or Labrocca?

    And he's a captain and leader. I personally wish the Rapids would have gone after him, especially when it's Chivas only had to give up about 60 cents on the dollar to get Shalrie.
     
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  22. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    But Chivas USA's problem isn't goals conceded -- they've got one of the lowest GA numbers in the league. Their problem is that they've got, by far, the worst GF number in the league.
     
  23. El Naranja

    El Naranja Member+

    Sep 5, 2006
    Alief
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Shalrie can still put them in at a good clip. If he plays more like a CM, he could get forward enough to cause defenses all sorts of problems. I can see where Chivas is coming from, a bit....
     
  24. RapidStorm

    RapidStorm Member+

    Jan 30, 2005
    Denver, CO
    No arguments here. Perhaps they're looking at how this fills a whole for them for the next 3 years, instead of just this year, and they'll address the striker issue next offseason? Or perhaps they think this will free up Labrocca (or other attackers) to get more involved in the offense like last year?

    I don't want to try to put myself in Fraser's mind. But I do think it's a justifiable move.
     
  25. RichardUK

    RichardUK Member

    Dec 14, 2006
    Nottingham, UK
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    New England fans and staff seem upset, but it looks like a good bit of business for the club. Get rid of an expensive, ageing (34!) midfielder with not a huge amount left in the tank and get cash, a decent draft pick and Blair Gavin, who has often looked excellent with Chivas USA? Can't complain.
     

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