I feel dirty, like i need to scrub down with a wire brush, but yes, i would make that trade now that Graz is gone. Theres alway Pineda Cacon or even Rooney, two other popular Revs rumored to be available.
If anyone thinks that we will win with DeRo or Barclay paired with Donovan up front, they are seriously mistaken. Probably are the same people that thought we would get past the first round of the playoffs last season. I'm gonna have faith, they got Graz last season when everyone thought they were done. There's still time.
ldb, I know your heart's in the right place and all that and I am well aware of your rationale for getting rid of Goose, but that's taking it a bit too far. Diego S----for-brains has been a problem child whereever he goes. I don't know how the SJ fans could take (yeah, I know it's a business) that guy on their team, but with him we'd be the instant redcard leader of the league, probably because of the players on his own team beating the crap out of him.
Hell fishin' no!! No fishin; way! The fisher fished with Richie and Goose. You don't fish with the Richie or the Goose and then expect me to fishin support you on my team! A fisher like that one doesn't belong on this team! And that's the final fishin' answer! SJQF has spoken!
plus Serna just up and goes to Colombia every now and then during the middle of the season. he's not a mature person.
Speculative... ************ no! I'd rather get quality for quality. While I believe in the adage that players who are hated while they wear another team's kit but are revered if they are your teammate, Diego is hated whether he is on your team or not. Serna for Agoos = Highway Robbery! I'd rather have Mike Burns back here or (ahem) Ben Olsen or someone with skills instead of someone who takes dumb fouls and cards and does little to help the team. If they at least play hard they can wear the Quakes blue anyday... Pineda Chacon for Agoos would be a good match up front.
Hi folks- It looks like Chacon will be waived- finally- in a couple of days. NE has been offering Chacon to every team in the league but with no takers. One problem they have is that they need to trade salary to get back under the cap so they can't take back a max. salary guy in return. Also Serna will still be injured at the start of the season, though he's expected to be fully recovered before the season is over.
Nope. Too unstable a player to do any good to the team. He really wasn't productive until paired with Chacon in Ft. Lauderdale. Agoos is too valuable to us as a leader. You also can't underrate his impact on Robinson and our other defenders.
Doubly wrong. We are cap compliant at present, and Serna will be fully recovered and expected to be at the top of his game at the start of training camp. Regardless, this deal is a ridiculous and base-less suggestion. Agoos is an old, slow has-been and was a national disgrace at the World Cup. Llamosa and Kante are much superior central defenders, and their combined cost is lower than that of Agoos. I believe I speak for all Rev fans when I say that - with Jeff's salary - I wouldn't take him for a sixth round pick, let alone for someone with as much promise and talent as Serna. While 2001 was his most productive year, it certainly wasn't his ONLY productive year. 1998 - 11 goals, 9 assists - 31 points 1999 - 10 goals, 2 assists - 22 points 2000 - 16 goals, 10 assists - 42 points 2001- 15 goals, 15 assists - 45 points 2002 - 2 goals, 4 assists - 8 points (only 10 games started; injury-plagued) You've also got to consider that those numbers in 98-2000 came on a pretty poor Miami team.
Thats what they said about Graz before he got here, I really think you guys are too emotionally attached to Agoos and you hate Serna mostly because of "the incident" with Agoos. Agoos' impact on Robinson is already happened. Donovan and Serna up top and Dayak and Robinson in the back. If the injury thing is true then and Serna won't be able to play til mid season, i say forget it. We need help now.
I find it hard to believe that Llamosa makes that much less than Agoos? Were the Revs Cap Compliant with or without APC?
I don't have any emotional 'attachment' to Agoos that prevents me from trading him. He's a good player, a great leader, who got us to the MLS Cup Championship. Also think of the long term benefit from his presence. I don't think Robinson would be where he is without the help of Goose. That's disgusting to say that Goose was a 'disgrace' at the World Cup. Serna was incredibly productive with Chacon. That's the big reason why they had a break out year in 2001.
Goose has lost a step....I don't question the benefit of his presence, that's just an awful lot of $$$ for presence. Robinson definately wouldn't be where he is now without Agoos, nor would Dayak or Barret. Agoos taught Robinson, and added finishing touches to Barrett and Dayak, similar to the way Ekelund has helped Mulrooney and Russell. It's simply a matter of $$$. I think Robinson can do the job at a fraction of the price and Robinson is awesome in the air.
heck yes. i mean agoos can score goals. he just usually does it on his own team. i've detested agoos ever since the wcq against jamaica at RFK (probably before). goose for serna would be an excellent trade i feel, although i'm not sure how much either of them makes...
No, no. Disagree. That may be one reason for disliking the bastard, but Defender, Bandwagon and Nap have already given the major reasons for not taking Diego. He reminds me of those hillbillies I used to work with in the steel mill, they'd just up and take off for Harlan County, Ky or somewhere in Alabama when ever the mood hit them. The guy is an unreliable time bomb.
I always wanted a player on the team from Medellin Colombia.....it just sounds cool. DIEGO SERNA CLAP CLAP CLAP-CLAP-CLAP!!! Dateline,July 2003: BS POST by bri_fanatic_333: Anywho, I was talking to Diego today on AOL and he said he wolud finsh my player survey so i can post on my web-site.....thas hella cool. Nto to brag or nuthin btu Diego gives a better massage than Eddie. He told me the hat-trick he scored vs the Revs was for me....wooohooo! He also said Yallop lets him miss practice to go to Colombia....he never todl me why he goes there.
I'd take Serna on our team in a New York minute (whatever a "New York minute" is, as opposed to a regular minute, but I digress...). I'd rather the Quakes won MLS Cups than ethics awards. I appreciate Agoos, all he's done for our team, for the league, and for the national team, etc., but he's almost done, and unless Serna's injury winds up ruining his career, Diego's still got some game left. This is a business. Of course, if we keep Agoos, I'm okay with that, too. "What-if" stuff like this is fun, but as the Revs fans point out, it's quite an unlikely player transaction. Seen weirder, though.
Serna wilts under pressure. (Just my impression from seeing him in person a handful of times. No scoring in big games, as well as big meltdowns.) If I just wanted a good scorer, I would rather have Graz. As for the "ethics award", sainthood is not required, but I'd just as soon not have a certifiable thug on the roster. We have a fairly decent family atmosphere at Spartan, why ruin it?
$hit, LDB. It's only January 10 and you already have the post of the year. ROFLMFAO (an if you doent liek it, dont read it!!!)
Whoa, Amy, how are we supposed to make a choice between those two? If we did have Serna, we could say "He's our thug, now," but worse than that, I wonder whether he'd show up, the guy has been AWOL so many times, it's pathetic (if the Revs have got him, that's their problem). Ray used to have to send out them Florida bloodhounds to start a'looking for him, But like ldb says, it would be interesting to have a player from Medellin.