Serie-A old ratings

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  1. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
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    Thanks to @schwuppe who finds amazing info about italian Serie-A rankings from the 1950s-1960s, I create this thread to re-ordering the rankings provided.
     
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  2. msioux75

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    Serie-A 1956-57
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    According the original source, for overall points, the top players were:
    1. Fontana - 235 points
    2. Lovati, Julinho & Vinicio - 234 points
    5. Dino Costa - 233 points
    6. Lindskog & Pesaola - 231 points
    8. Bernasconi, Ocwirk & Bonifaci - 229 points

    This system, awarded those players who performed great during the season, but also missed none or very few matches.
     
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  3. msioux75

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    #3 msioux75, Mar 29, 2020
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    In contrast (but based on this ranking), I made another one, based in average performance only, but considering players who have played at least 60% of the games (20 out of 34 rounds).

    This is the result for Serie-A 1956-57 season.

    ------ Player------------Role-----Club--Country--Games--Rating

    01) LIEDHOLM, Nils------------- RM--- AC Milan---- Sweden - 26 - 8.17
    02) JULINHO Botelho------------ RW--- Fiorentina --- Brazil--- 30 - 7.80
    03) SCHIAFFINO, Juan----------- IL---- AC Milan---- Uru/Ita - 29 - 7.72
    04) LINDSKOG, Bengt------------ IL----- Udinese----- Sweden-- 30 - 7.70
    05) SECCHI, Giuseppe ----------- CF---- Udinese------- Italy---- 28 - 7.41
    06) POSIO, Celso------------------- LM---- Napoli-------- Italy---- 29 - 7.31
    07) PILMARK, Axel--------------- LM---- Bologna--- Denmark - 30 - 7.30
    08) SEGATO, Armando---------- LM--- Fiorentina----- Italy---- 30 - 7.25
    09) GUSTAVSSON, Bengt ------- CB --- Atalanta --- Sweden - 31 - 7.23
    10) RICAGNI, Eduardo---------- IR/IL--- Torino----- Arg/Ita-- 31 - 7.19


    11) LOSI, Giácomo----------------- LB---- AS Roma--- Italy --- 30 -- 7.18
    12) MUCCINELLI, Ermes -------- RW------ Lazio------ Italy --- 29 -- 7.17
    13) BONIFACI, Antoine------------ RM---- Bologna-- France -- 32 -- 7.16
    14) CERVELLATI, Cesarino ----- RW --- Bologna ---- Italy --- 30 - 7.13
    15) BUGATTI, Ottavio------------- GK------ Napoli------ Italy --- 32 - 7.11
    16) DA COSTA, Dino--------------- IL ----- AS Roma - Bra/Ita - 33 - 7.06
    17) ORZAN, Alberto--------------- CB --- Fiorentina --- Italy --- 31 - 6.98
    18) FERRARIO, Rino--------------- CB ---- Triestina ---- Italy --- 32 -- 6.97
    19) FONTANA, Alfio------------- LM/RM - AC Milan---- Italy -- 34 -- 6.91
    20) STUCCHI, Giosué-------------- CB------ AS Roma--- Italy -- 33 - 6.91


    21) COMASCHI, Luciano ----------- RB------ Napoli------ Italy - 32 - 6.91
    22) LOVATI, Roberto ---------------- GK ------ Lazio ------ Italy - 34 - 6.88
    23) VINICIO, Luis -------------------- CF ------ Napoli ---- Brazil - 34 - 6.88
    24) VIVOLO, Pasquale ------------ CF/IR ---- Lazio ------ Italy -- 28 - 6.86
    25) PIN, Antonio --------------------- GK ----- Padova ------ Italy - 33 - 6.82
    26) LONGONI, Angelo ------------- LW -- Atalanta ------ Italy -- 30 - 6.80
    27) PESAOLA, Bruno----------------- IL ----- Napoli --- Arg/Ita - 34 - 6.79
    28) BERNASCONI, Gaudenzio --- CB --- Sampdoria -- Italy -- - 34 - 6.74
    29) OCWIRK, Ernst ------------------- IR --- Sampdoria -- Austria - 34 - 6.74
    30) SELMONSSON, Arne ------- LW/IL ----- Lazio ----- Sweden - 34 - 6.74


    31) BECATTINI, Fosco ----------- LB/RB ---- Genoa ----- Italy --- 32 - 6.73
    32) MORIN, Sergio ------------------ RM ----- Napoli ------ Italy ---- 33 - 6.73
    33) SKOGLUND, Lennart ---------- LW ------ Inter ----- Sweden - 31 - 6.71
    34) BANDINI, Piero ------------------ GK --- Triestina ------ Italy -- 34 - 6.66
    35) DI GIÁCOMO, Benjamino ----- IR ------- SPAL ------- Italy -- 32 - 6.66
    36) NORDHAL, Gunnar ------------- CF --- As Roma --- Sweden 30 - 6.65
    37) FARINA, Giuseppe -------------- RB --- Sampdoria --- Italy --- 34 - 6.65
    38) CORSINI, Giulio ----------------- LB ----- Atalanta ----- Italy --- 33 - 6.58
    39) FRIGNANI, Amleto ------------- RW ---- Udinese ----- Italy --- 33 - 6.58
    40) PESTRIN, Paolo ---------------- IR ------ As Roma ---- Italy --- 32 - 6.56


    41) CORRADI, Giuseppe ------- RB ----- Juventus - Italy -- 34 - 6.53
    42) BETTOLI, Pietro -------------- LB ---- Palermo -- Italy --- 33 - 6.48
    43) BENEDETTI, Enzo ---------- RM --- Palermo -- Italy --- 34 - 6.41
    44) ARMANO, Gino ---------- RW/IR -- Torino --- Italy --- 33 - 6.36
    45) BROCCINI, Pietro ----------- IL/IR --- SPAL -- Italy --- 33 - 6.33
    46) MOLINO, Giovanni ---------- RB ----- Lazio --- Italy --- 34 - 6.32
    47) DAL POS, Edoardo ----------- LM ---- SPAL --- Italy --- 33 - 6.30
    48) FONTANESI, Alberto ------- LW --- Udinese - Italy --- 34 - 6.03
    49) -------------------- unknown
    50) -------------------- unknown


    All 4 nominees were considered for the 11 roles and 4 players for Ruoli Vari.
     
  4. msioux75

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    #4 msioux75, Mar 29, 2020
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    Ideal team 1956-57 (Corriere dello Sport unnoficial)
    --------------------- Bugatti
    Comaschi --------- Gustavsson ----------- Losi
    ------------- Liedholm --------- Pilmark
    -------- Schiaffino ---------------- Lindskog
    Julinho ----------- Secchi --------------- Longoni


    Arguably: Ghezzi (GK), C.Maldini (RB)
     
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  5. msioux75

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    #5 msioux75, Mar 29, 2020
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    Serie-A 1956-57 (Stars not making the top-50)

    The player with less matches making the CdS ranking was Nils Liedholm with 26 games, who finished fourth in his Category by points, but a clear #1 by average.

    Players with high-probability to make the top-50:
    Considering the #points of the last-ranked in his role.
    x > 7,50 there are: Maldini (21g), Hamrin (23g), Vonlanthen (23g), Ghezzi (24g)

    Players with medium-probability to make the top-50:
    Considering the #points of the last-ranked in his role.
    7,00 > x > 6,50 there are: Boniperti (24g), D.Arce (24g), Bredesen (27g), Ghiggia (27g)

    Players with low rating:
    Considering the #points of the last-ranked in his role.
    6,50 >x, there are: Montuori (30g), Abaddie (29g), Szoke (29g), Cervato (30g), Lorenzi (28g), W.Gómez (27g)

    Less than 20 matches:
    Lojacono, H.Jepsson, Buffon, Cuchiarioni, Praest, Vernazza, Silvio Parodi, José Parodi, Humberto Tozzi, Hugo Natteri (Per)

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/various-stuff-i-found-from-the-40s-60s.2092755/
    http://calcio-seriea.net/risultati/1956/832/
     
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  6. msioux75

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    Overall, the ratings seems inflated. Even, with a correction, they could be decreased in +/- 0.50 points

    So, my estimation about best players in Serie-A 1956-57:

    5 stars(1): Nils Liedholm

    4 stars(3): Julinho, Schiaffino, Lindskog

    3 stars(12): Secchi, Posio, Pilmark, Segato, Gustavsson, Ricagni, Losi, Muccinelli, Bonifaci, Cervellati, Bugatti, Dino da Costa

    2 stars(19): Orzan, Ferrario, Fontana, Stucchi, Comaschi, Lovati, Vinicio, Vivolo, Pin, Longoni, Pesaola, Bernasconi, Ocwirk, Selmonsson, Becattini, Morin, Skoglund, Bandini, G.Nordhal.


    Arguably 3-stars: C.Maldini, Hamrin, Vonlanthen, Ghezzi.
    Arguably 2-stars: Boniperti, D.Arce, Ghiggia, Bredesen, Montuori.
     
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  7. Dearman

    Dearman Member

    Argentina
    Feb 24, 2010
    Bangkok, Thailand
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Nat'l Team:
    Thailand
    I never believe one day will have 1950s - 1960s rating as well as your posts in La Liga and Argentine Primera division.

    I'm little surprised Liedholm get very high rating and Ocwirk's rating is lower than expected.
     
  8. msioux75

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    Lima, Peru
    For Argentina, 1965 is the oldest. In this thread, I'm working in 1958-59 season.

    For 1956-57, averages I posted, seems inflated, even with some adjudments, Liedholm will have 7,65 (a bit higher, but more credible, than 7,50 that someone got in La Liga)

    For this season, I think Ocwirk was in decline, also was playing in a more offensive role that he used to being played.
     
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    Nov 27, 2017
    Serie A 1937-38 1938 Il Calcio Illustrato Del 1 al 53-217-217.jpg
     
  10. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Serie-A 1958-59
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    According the original source, for overall points, the top players were:
    1. Bernasconi - 261 points
    2. Angelillo - 252.5 points
    3. Maldini - 249.5 points
    4. Liedholm - 249 points
    5. Robotti - 247 points
    6. Panetti, Seghedoni & Brighenti - 242.5 points
    9. Ghezzi - 241 points
    10.Selmonsson - 240.5 points

    This time, there were 5 players by role and 5 for multi-role.
     
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  11. msioux75

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    #11 msioux75, Apr 3, 2020
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2020
    Serie-A 1958-59 season, based on average performances.

    ------ Player--------------Role----Club---Country--Games--Rating

    01) LIEDHOLM, Nils--------------- RM----- AC Milan--- Sweden --- 30 -- 8.30
    02) BONIPERTI, Gian Piero-------- IR------ Juventus ------ Italy----- 26 -- 7.73
    03) BERNASCONI, Gaudenzio -- CB ---- Sampdoria ---- Italy ----- 34 -- 7,68
    04) ANGELILLO, Antonio
    ------- CF/IR ------ Inter---- Argentina-- 33 -- 7.65
    05) LOJACONO, Francisco ------ IL/IR--- Fiorentina--- Arg/Ita--- 28 -- 7.63
    06) PANETTI, Luciano-------------- GK------- Roma-------- Italy------ 32 -- 7.58
    07) GHEZZI, Giorgio---------------- GK------- Genoa------- Italy------ 32 -- 7.53
    08) SEGHEDONI, Gianni----------- CB-------- Bari--------- Italy------ 33 -- 7.35
    09) BRIGHENTI, Sergio ------------ CF ------ Padova ----- Italy ------ 33 -- 7.35
    10) MALDINI, Cesare--------------- CB-------- Milan------- Italy------ 34 -- 7.34


    11) GRILLO, Ernesto--------------- IL------- Milan---- Argentina -- 27 --- 7.33
    12) ROSA, Humberto -------------- IR------ Padova----- Arg/Ita ---- 30 -- 7.30
    13) BUGATTI, Ottavio-------------- GK------ Napoli-------- Italy ----- 32 -- 7.30
    14) SELMONSSON, Arne ---------- LW/IL ---- Roma ----- Sweden --- 33 -- 7,29

    15) ROBOTTI, Enzo ----------------- RB --- Fiorentina ----- Italy ---- 34 -- 7.26
    16) MAZZONI, Mario--------------- RM ------- Bari --------- Italy ---- 33 -- 7.24
    17) CAMPANA, Sergo------------ IL/CF --- Vicenza ------ Italy ----- 31 -- 7,19
    18) BERNARDIN, Giorgio--------- CB ---- Triestina ----- Italy ------ 31 -- 7,18
    19) CASTELLETTI, Sergio-------- LB ---- Fiorentina----- Italy ----- 32 -- 7,17
    20) ZAGLIO, Franco---------------- LM------- Roma------- Italy ------ 30 -- 7,17


    21) SARTI, Benito ------------------ LB----- Sampdoria----- Italy ----- 31 -- 7,16
    22) JANICH, Franco -------------- CB -------- Lazio -------- Italy ----- 32 -- 7,16
    23) CARRADORI, Franco ------- RM ------- Lazio -------- Italy ----- 32 -- 7,14
    24) CORSINI, Giulio
    -------------- LB ------- Roma -------- Italy ----- 31 -- 7,11
    25) MAGNANINI, Enzo --------- GK ------- Bari ---------- Italy ---- 33 -- 7,11
    26) SEGATO, Armando-------- LM/IL--- Fiorentina----- Italy----- 29 -- 7.10
    27) CUCCHIARIONI, Tito ------ LW --- Sampdoria - Argentina - 29 -- 7,10
    28) CHARLES, John---------------- CF ----- Juventus ----- Wales --- 29 -- 7,09
    29) HAMRIN, Kurt
    ---------------- RW --- Fiorentina --- Sweden -- 32 -- 7,08
    30) CONTI, Raúl -------------------- IL -------- Bari ------ Argentina - 28 -- 7,05


    31) TAGNIN, Carlo ------------ IR/LM ---- Lazio ------- Italy ---- 29 -- 7,05
    32) PENTRELLI, Luis -------------- RW ---- Udinese -- Argentina - 31 - 7,03
    33) MAZZOLA, José Altafini ----- CF ------ Milan ------ Brazil --- 32 -- 7,02
    34) GHIGGIA, Alcides ------------- RW ------ Roma ---- Uru/Ita --- 29 -- 6.98
    35) BURELLI, Guglielmo ---------- RB ---- Vicenza ------ Italy ---- 34 -- 6.97
    36) FONTANA, Alfio
    ----------------- RB ------ Milan------- Italy ---- 34 -- 6.97
    37) GRIFITH, Giovanni ------------ RB ------ Roma ------- Italy ---- 33 -- 6.97
    38) VICINI, Azeglio --------------- LM/IL - Sampdoria --- Italy ---- 34 -- 6.96
    39) ZAGATTI, Francesco ---------- LB ------ Milan ------- Italy ---- 33 -- 6.95
    40) GALLI, Carlo ------------------ IR/RW ---- Milan ------- Italy ---- 30 -- 6.92


    41) BONIFACI, Antoine------------- LM------- Torino -- France -- 33 -- 6,91
    42) FOGLI, Romano -------------- RM/LM -- Bologna --- Italy --- 30 -- 6.88
    43) MARIANI, Amos ---------------- RW ----- Padova ---- Italy --- 31 -- 6.85
    44) PIN, Antonio ---------------------- GK ----- Padova ---- Italy --- 34 -- 6.82
    45) GRECO II, Elia ----------------- LB/CB --- Napoli ----- Italy --- 34 -- 6.82
    46) TOZZI, Humberto --------------- CF ------- Lazio ---- Brazil --- 33 -- 6.77
    47) DANOVA, Giancarlo ------- LW/RW --- Milan ----- Italy --- 30 -- 6.77
    48) DI GIÁCOMO, Benjamino
    ------ IR ----- Napoli ----- Italy --- 33 -- 6.74
    49) PASCUTTI, Ezio ------------------ LW --- Bologna ---- Italy --- 31 -- 6.74
    50) SAVOINI, Giulio ----------------- LW ---- Vicenza ---- Italy --- 34 -- 672

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  12. msioux75

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    Ideal team 1958-59 (Corriere dello Sport unnoficial)
    -------------------------- Ghezzi
    Robotti --------- Bernasconi ----------- Castelletti
    ------------- Liedholm ------- Segato
    ------- Boniperti ------------------ Lojacono
    Hamrin ---------- Angelillo ------------- Selmonsson


    Arguably: L.Buffon (GK), Cervato (LB), Vukas (IL)
     
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  13. msioux75

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    Serie-A 1958-59 (Stars not making the top-50)

    The player with less matches making the CdS ranking was Boniperti with 26 games, who finished fifth in his Category by points, but #2 by average.

    Players with high-probability to make the top-50:
    Considering the #points of the last-ranked in his role.
    x > 7,50 there are: Bredesen (20g), David (21g), Vukas (21g), Buffon (25g), Cervato (25g)

    Players with medium-probability to make the top-50:
    Considering the #points of the last-ranked in his role.
    7,33 > x > 6,50 there are: D.Arce (23g), Sivori (24g), Ocwirk (25g), Del Vecchio (25g), Pilmark (26g)

    Players with low rating:
    Considering the #points of the last-ranked in his role.
    6,50 >x, there are: Szoke (28g), Vinicio (28g), da Costa (27g), Schiaffino (27g), Montuori (27g), Lindskog (27g), Barison (27g), E.Bearzot 6,33 (33g)

    Less than 20 matches:
    Albertosi, Burgnich, Salvadore, Losi, Abaddie, Bulgarelli, Vonlanthen, Maschio, Palmer, Corso, Skoglund.
     
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  14. msioux75

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    The ratings seems inflated, but overall a stronger season than 2 years before.

    So, my estimation about best players in Serie-A 1958-59:

    5 stars(1): Nils Liedholm

    4 stars(6): Boniperti, Bernasconi, Angelillo, Lojacono, Panetti, Ghezzi

    3 stars(22): Seghedoni, Brighenti, Maldini, Grillo, Rosa, Bugatti, Selmonsson, Robotti, Mazzoni, Campana, Bernardin, Castelletti, Zaglio, Sarti, Janich, Carradori, Cuchiarioni, J.Charles, Hamrin, Pentrelli, Altafini, Ghiggia

    2 stars(18): Corsini, Magnanini, Segato, R.Conti, Tagnin, Burelli, Fontana, Griffith, A.Vicini, Zagatti, Galli, Bonifaci, Fogli, Mariani, Pin, Greco II, H.Tozzi, Pascutti.


    Arguably 3-stars: Buffon, Cervato, David, Bredesen, Vukas.
    Arguably 2-stars: Pilmark, del Vecchio, Ocwirk, D.Arce, Dino da Costa, Montuori, Sivori.
     
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  15. Dearman

    Dearman Member

    Argentina
    Feb 24, 2010
    Bangkok, Thailand
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Nat'l Team:
    Thailand
    Liedholm obtained very high rating in these two seasons supposedly for his vision and passing accuracy that crated a number of assists. He remains incredibly consistent after Nordahl departed Milan. That is a great aspect he could adapt himself for a new set of players. This tendency of rating let think he might get similar evaluation in most of his previous seasons and that means he would be rated in world-class at least 5 - 8 seasons as being a main creative force of Milan always stand on the top places in the league. However, in 1958 - 1959, as a deep-lying midfielder, he become much slower and scored only one goal in the league when Milan's total goal is 84. So I think the rating possibly set overweight of vision and passing in high proportion.

    As I check in original source, Cesare Maldini likes he to get high rating in only one season of 1958 - 1959 season and then he had the first international appearance in 1960. He was named 1962 World Cup Best XI and was chosen as World Soccer world XI in 1963 but he was not rated high in the league and after then he was never capped again.
     
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  16. msioux75

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    Yeah, even inflated, if I didn't make any mistakes on calculations, it looks, like Liedholm get two world class (at least) seasons in the above posts.

    About Maldini, until this season, he seems had been playing as fullback at both sides. But he get his prime playing as a centerback.
     
  17. msioux75

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    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Serie-A 1959-60
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    According the original source, for overall points, the top players were:
    1. J.Charles - 243 points
    2. Hamrin - 238.5 points
    3. Losi - 232.5 points
    4. Anzolin - 228 points
    5. Marchesi - 227.5 points
    6. Bugatti - 227 points
    7. Pavinato - 224 points
    8. Guarnacci - 223.5 points
    9. Cervato - 220 points
    10.Sarti - 219.5 points

    This resume considered until the 31 round (last 3 are missing).
     
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  18. msioux75

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    #18 msioux75, Apr 9, 2020
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2020
    Serie-A 1959-60 season, based on average performances (31ºround).

    ------ Player--------------Role----Club---Country--Games--Rating

    01) CHARLES, John---------------- CF ----- Juventus ----- Wales ---- 31 -- 7,84
    02) SÍVORI, Omar------------------- IL------- Juventus -- Argentina-- 28 -- 7.80
    03) HAMRIN, Kurt
    ---------------- RW --- Fiorentina ---- Sweden -- 31 -- 7,69
    04) LOSI, Giácomo
    ------------------ CB ------- Roma--------- Italy----- 31 --- 7.50
    05) EMOLI, Flavio ----------------- RM------ Juventus------- Italy----- 28 -- 7.38
    06) ANZOLIN, Roberto----------- GK------ Palermo-------- Italy----- 31 -- 7.35
    07) SEGHEDONI, Gianni------- CB/LM------ Bari---------- Italy----- 27 -- 7.35
    08) MARCHESI, Rino-------------- LM------ Atalanta------- Italy------ 31 -- 7.34
    09) CASTELLETTI, Sergio
    --------- LB ---- Fiorentina------ Italy ----- 27 -- 7,33
    10) BUGATTI, Ottavio
    ------------- GK------- Napoli-------- Italy ----- 31 -- 7.32

    11) COLOMBO, Umberto------ LM----- Juventus---- Italy --- 28 --- 7.32
    12) BONIPERTI, Gian Piero---- IR/RW--- Juventus ---- Italy----- 29 -- 7.28
    13) PAVINATO, Mirco------------ LB----- Bologna------ Italy ---- 31 -- 7.23
    14)
    PIN, Antonio ---------------------- GK ------ Padova ------ Italy ---- 30 -- 7,22
    15) GUARNACCI, Egidio ------ LM/RM ---- Roma ----- Italy ---- 31 -- 7.21
    16) ORZAN, Alberto--------------- CB ---- Fiorentina --- Italy --- 30 -- 7.18
    17) CARLINI, Rino------------------ CB ------ Genoa ----- Italy ---- 29 -- 7,17
    18) JANICH, Franco ----------------- CB -------- Lazio -------- Italy ----- 30 -- 7,15
    19) TAGNIN, Carlo --------------- IR/IL/RM ----- Bari --------- Italy ---- 28 -- 7,14
    20) CHIAPPELLA, Giuseppe----- RM---- Fiorentina---- Italy --- 29 -- 7,14


    21) MASCHIO, Humberto ------- IR------ Atalanta--- Argentina -- 27 -- 7,13
    22) POSIO, Celso ------------------ LM ------ Napoli ------- Italy ------ 29 -- 7,12
    23) CERVATO, Sergio ------------ CB ----- Juventus ------ Italy ----- 31 -- 7,10
    24) SANTARELLI, Attilio
    ------- GK ------ Bologna ------ Italy ----- 28 -- 7,09
    25) LOJACONO, Francisco ---- IL/IR--- Fiorentina--- Arg/Ita---- 29 -- 7.09
    26) SARTI, Giuliano---------------- GK---- Fiorentina------ Italy------ 31 -- 7.08
    27) FONTANA, Alfio
    -------------- RB -------- Milan-------- Italy ----- 30 -- 7,07
    28) VERNAZZA, Santiago---- RW/CF -- Palermo - Argentina --- 31 -- 7,06
    29) CORSO, Mario
    ---------------- LW ------- Inter ---------- Italy ----- 28 -- 7,05
    30) CUCCHIARIONI, Tito ------ LW --- Sampdoria - Argentina -- 29 -- 7,05


    31) NICOLE, Bruno -------- RW/IR ---- Juventus ----- Italy ---- 28 -- 7,00
    32) BRIGHENTI, Sergio --------- CF -------- Padova -------- Italy ----- 28 -- 7.00
    33) CORRADI, Giuseppe ------ RB -------- Genoa ------- Italy ---- 29 -- 6,95
    34) FRANZINI, Bruno ----------- IL --------- Lazio -------- Italy ---- 31 -- 6.90
    35) VICINI, Azeglio
    ------------- LM ----- Sampdoria ---- Italy ---- 30 -- 6.88
    36) MASSEI, Oscar
    ------------ IL/IR -------- SPAL---- Argentina - 29 -- 6.88
    37) MIALICH, Giovanni ----- RM/CB ---- Bologna ------ Italy ---- 29 -- 6.88
    38) BURELLI, Guglielmo
    ------ RB ------- Vicenza ------- Italy ---- 30 -- 6.87
    39) DE BELLIS, Antonio ------ RB -------- Palermo ------ Italy ---- 29 -- 6.84
    40) BELTRANDI, Rodolfo ---- RM --------- Napoli ------- Italy ---- 31 -- 6.82


    41) MORBELLO, Egidio--------- LW------- SPAL ------- Italy ---- 30 - 6,82
    42) PENTRELLI, Luis ----------- RW ---- Udinese -- Argentina - 31 - 6,81
    43) BOZZAO, Gianfranco ------ LB ------- SPAL ------- Italy ---- 31 -- 6.81
    44) BETTINI, Lorenzo ----------- CF ----- Udinese ------ Italy ---- 28 -- 6.80
    45) MENTI, Luigi --------------- IR/IL --- Vicenza ------ Italy ---- 28 -- 6.80
    46) RONZÓN, Pierluigi ---------- IL ----- Atalanta ----- Italy ---- 31 -- 6.79
    47) PIQUÉ, Luciano ------------- RM ------- Genoa ------ Italy ---- 31 -- 6.77
    48) SKOGLUND, Lennart
    ------- IL --- Sampdoria -- Sweden -- 29 -- 6.76
    49) MICHELI, Dante ------------- RM ------ SPAL ------- Italy ---- 31 -- 6.76
    50) ALTAFINI, José
    -------------- CF ------- Milan ------ Brazil --- 30 -- 6,75

    Bonus
    ANGELILLO, Antonio------- CF ------ Inter---- Argentina-- 30 -- 6,68
    SELMONSSON, Arne ---- LW/IL --- Roma ---- Sweden --- 28 -- 6,52
    MORA, Bruno ---------------- RW -- Sampdoria --- Italy ----- 30 -- 6,50

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  19. msioux75

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    Ideal team 1959-60 (Corriere dello Sport unnoficial - missing 3 rounds.
    ------------------------ Anzolin
    Fontana --------- Losi ----------- Castelletti
    ------------ Emoli ------- Marchesi
    ------- Boniperti ---------------- Sívori
    Hamrin ---------- Charles ---------- Cucchiaroni


    Last 3 rounds:
    To increase: Hamrin (4g), Cucchiaroni (2g), Nicole (2g), Skoglund (2g), Altafini (3g), Firmani (4g), Manfredini (3g), Demarco (3g), Rozzoni (4g)
    To decrease: Gustavsson (32º 1og, 33º loss 0-5)
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  20. msioux75

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    Jan 8, 2006
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    Serie-A 1959-60 (Stars not making the top-50)

    The players with less matches making the CdS ranking were Seghedoni, Castelletti 6 Maschio with 27 games, whom finished fourth in their Category by points, but make it top-20 by average.

    Players with high-probability to make the top-50:
    Considering the #points of the last-ranked in his role.
    x > 7,50 there are: David (21g), Firmani (21g), Grillo (22g)

    Players with medium-probability to make the top-50:
    Considering the #points of the last-ranked in his role.
    7,33 > x > 6,50 there are: Manfredini (22g), G.Rivera (23g), Liedholm (26g), Barison (23g), Montuori (24g), Lindskog (25g)

    Players with low rating:
    Considering the #points of the last-ranked in his role.
    6,50 >x, there are: del Vecchio (26g), Maldini (28g), Gustavsson (28g), Demarco (26g), Ocwirk (27g), Vinicio (27g), Picchi (27g)

    Less than 20 matches:
    D.Arce, Ghezzi, L.Buffon, Bulgarelli, Abaddie, da Costa, Schiaffino, H.Tozzi, Burgnich, Salvadore, Trapattoni, Pascutti, Ghiggia
     
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  21. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Again, ratings seems inflated, but as the previous one, another strong season with less disparity between ratings.

    So, my estimation about best players in Serie-A 1959-60:

    5 stars(0): -

    4 stars(3): Charles, Sivori, Hamrin

    3 stars(21): Losi, Emoli, Anzolin, Seghedoni, Marchesi, Castelletti, Bugatti, Colombo, Boniperti, Pavinato, Pin, Guarnacci, Orzan, Carlini, Janich, Maschio, Cervato, Lojacono, Vernazza, Corso, Cuchiaroni

    2 stars(25): Tagnin, Chiapella, Posio, Santarelli, G.Sarti, Fontana, Nicolé, Brighenti, Corradi, Franzini, Vicini, Massei, Mialich, Burelli, de Bellis, Beltrandi, Morbello, Pentrelli, Bozzao, Bettini, L.Menti, Ronzon, Skoglund, Altafini, Angelillo.


    Arguably 3-stars: David, Grillo, Firmani.
    Arguably 2-stars: Manfredini, G.Rivera, Liedholm, Barison, Montuori, Lindskog, del Vecchio, Maldini

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  22. Titanlux

    Titanlux Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Nov 27, 2017
    In late June 1964, the results of a macro-survey (I don't know who organized it or what its details were) were published to designate the best footballer of the season in Italy. I have only been able to locate the clipping that I attach, in the hope that someone can shed more light in relation to that choice.
    balon de oro italiano_redimensionar.jpg
     
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  23. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Serie-A 1960-61
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    According the original source, for cummulative points, the top players were:
    1. Lindskog - 239.5 points
    2. Marocchi - 239
    3. Seghedoni - 237.5
    4. Tagnin - 236.5
    5. Guarneri - 235.5
    6. Bugatti - 233.5
    7. Vincenzi - 233
    8. Salvadore - 223
    9. Tagliavini - 233
    10.Losi - 232

    This resume considered the 34 rounds:
    - Missing Juve-Inter (rescheduled from 28r after the 34r).
    - Promotion games between 14th, 15th and 16th places (2 extra games)
     
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  24. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Serie-A 1960-61 season, based on average performances (missing 1 match).
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    Notes:
    In the rescheduled match Juve-Inter played after the 34ºR, Internazionale lineup a B-team (S.Mazzola debut), meanwhile Juventus lineup his A-team (ranked players as Charles, Sarti and Mora, and also Sivori who scored 6 goals this match).

    Not appears in his role by Total Points due to less matches played.
    Maybe Top-10: Maschio IR-24, Cervato CB-27.
    Maybe Top-15: Demarco IR-23, Sivori IL-27.
    Maybe Top-25: Liedholm RM-25, Skoglund IL-24, Gustavsson CB-29, Boniperti IR-27, Lojacono IL-27.
    Maybe Top-50: Firmani CF-28, Maldini RB-30, Picchi RB-30, Vernazza RW-29, Selmonsson LW-23.
     
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  25. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Ideal team 1960-61 (Corriere dello Sport unnoficial.
    -------------------- L.Buffon
    Vincenzi --------- Losi ----------- Trebbi
    ----------- Tagnin ------- Balleri
    ------ Ocwirk --------------- Lindskog
    Hamrin --------- J.Charles ---------- Corso


    Arguably:
    Cervato-CB, Maschio-IR, Sivori-IL (especially the latter two).
     
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