Senior Team Discussion

Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by Vieri's Left Foot, Dec 3, 2023.

  1. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member+

    Club: Frosinone
    Mar 29, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    It would just be fun to watch Argentina play good teams even if a friendly. It's a great footballing nation. I do wonder if they entered 2022 a bit relaxed for that reason.
     
  2. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member+

    Club: Frosinone
    Mar 29, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Get him to Como!
     
  3. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    LMAO at Vergara on trial. You can't make this sh*t up.
     
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  4. WPG_Azzurri

    WPG_Azzurri Member

    Italy
    Mar 25, 2025
    A true microcosm of why Italian football is in the state it is in, 100%.

    Other clubs would be seeing a player like that as a central talent to build around. Instead, we have dinosaurs salivating to point out the flaws of the young player. Can't wait to bring in another journeyman foreigner instead.

    So ********ing upsetting.
     
  5. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member+

    Club: Frosinone
    Mar 29, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Put Allegri on trial!
     
  6. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member+

    Club: Frosinone
    Mar 29, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    What's up with Palladino? Is he toxic? Do you know why every club hates him after one (or half) season?

    Best for him to coach out of italia?
     
  7. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Palladino left Fiorentina because he clashed with Prade. The tension was over Prade buying players that Palladino didn’t want and didn’t ask for. Most people thought Prade was just a retard, but time gives perspective. Prade was a scam artist and was blowing Rocco’s money to make his agent friends rich.

    At Atalanta, Palladino blew a golden opportunity because the team was seemingly built for him to succeed. He had a very high profile humiliation in the home game vs. Bayern where he had the entire Atalanta 11 try to play Munich man for man. That and Atalanta dropped a lot of points in games that they shouldn’t have.

    Right now he’s on standby. There are no teams linked to him, but I think he’s going to be a first choice call when someone gets fired.
     
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  8. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    #18958 AGomes, Jun 9, 2026
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    I don't blame Allegri anymore. He can't help but be mentally challenged. I blame his Assistants and DOF's who hire him.

    Italy's just watching the football world pass them by. I'm legitimately upset over seeing it happen in real time.

    I really hate this and Friday is going to sting.
     
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  9. itaNapoli

    itaNapoli Member

    Jun 15, 2004
    At least we don’t have to see the 3-5-2 with Di Lorenzo and De Marco
     
  10. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    #18960 AGomes, Jun 9, 2026
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2026
    Yeah. Sad part is it would have been too late and they would have felt it would be unnecessary to switch formations figuring they qualified so it's working! Bosnia team members posting pix around the city. Fuuuuucccckkkkk
     
  11. Leo Bartoni

    Leo Bartoni Member

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Dec 22, 2024
    It's possible. That first game was very bizarre.
     
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  12. itaNapoli

    itaNapoli Member

    Jun 15, 2004
    The only way we were getting through was if he trust some more of those young guys. And just went with a back 4. Def tough seeing the Bosnian team there instead of us. Can’t wait till it’s over.
     
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  13. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    I will make a list later on but I hope a lot of the U21s play in the nations league, not just a few of them. Majority of the starters definitely deserve to be on our team going forward.
     
  14. itaNapoli

    itaNapoli Member

    Jun 15, 2004
    The amount of Italians in 2025-2026 playing in Serie A was around 30-31% basically the lowest ever. With Serie B holding in the 71 % range. While around 2006 it was around 70% for comparison.
     
  15. WPG_Azzurri

    WPG_Azzurri Member

    Italy
    Mar 25, 2025
    I am looking forward to this even though I do not give a shit typically about Nations League.

    Let's get the manager in place, if it's Mancini, so be it, and let's start to build towards something.

    Seeing an actual framework of how things are going to look with new players excites me.
     
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  16. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    #18966 TorontoCalabria, Jun 9, 2026
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2026
    And with no Italy at the world cup Serie A still has the 2nd most players represented after the premier league. Another more relevant way of looking at it would be how many Italians are playing in the top 5 leagues. We likely will never get it back to 70% domestically but we need to see that trend reverse and see the number of Italians across Europe increase.

    currently in the top 5 leagues

    1 Spain 523
    2 France 400
    3 Italy 300
    4 Germany 277
    5 England 267

    If we exclude goalies and players over 30 there are roughly 150 Italians.
    As bleak as these numbers are I think it is clear the issue is mainly the lack of young Italians that play and four technical development which has improved since 2018. Other nations are producing talent with fewer opportunities and resources. At some point the quality of the players is the issue. Again thankfully we see a more talented generation coming through at the moment and hopefully more technical reforms are made.
     
  17. Sam De Martino

    as roma
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2021
    Cant wait till world cup over, wont be watching its too painful. Praying its mancini, like i keep saying first job ring tresoldi.
    My september squad is this
    Donnarumma, Carnesecchi, Caprile
    Leoni, Coppola, Scalvini, Mane, Bastoni, Calafiori, Kayode, Palestra, Barteseghi
    Tonali, Doumbia, Barella, Di Marco, Piselli, Liberali, Lipani, Fagioli, Ndour, Tresoldi, P esposito, Vergara, Koloscho, Kean, Camarda, Inacio. A greqt squad.
     
  18. Sam De Martino

    as roma
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2021
    Look forward to seeing your list.
     
  19. Sam De Martino

    as roma
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2021
    Also feel Zaniolo needs to be called at some point this year in nations league games.
     
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  20. Sam De Martino

    as roma
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2021
    Id keep ahanor, chiarodia, reggiani, dagresso, ekhator all with the under 21s for now, all to be considered after the next under 21 euros which we hopefully qualify for. If we qualify they all play in that tournament and mane, ndour, lipani, piselli, camarda, doumbia all play in it as well even if playing for full team. Great experience and we want ro win under 21s euros been so long since we won it.
     
  21. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member+

    Club: Frosinone
    Mar 29, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I'm likely on the bad list for many Italians...I have to watch the world cup. No matter what, it's in my DNA to consume it. The only games I won't watch are USA games because they are by far the most annoying national team in existence, far beyond England at this point.
     
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  22. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    Allegri saying Vergara is on trial is the EXACT reason I keep saying that we need to FORCE reforms on the clubs. These old fckin zebras will not change their corrupt and short-sighted stripes. They just won't. Allegri is going to buy shitty players and so will AC Miland Juve.

    These clubs won't spend an additional DIME towards youth team development unless they are forced to.

    We have to cap non-EU players and force a minimum number of homegrown players for each team. I'd also require one of the homegrown players to be U21 in the line-up.

    Italians will not change. They must be forced to change.
     
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  23. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    I can't watch that sh*t, especially the early games where the quality will be utter garbage.
     
  24. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    I've actually enjoyed the last two world cups it's nice as a neutral. When italy is in it and then go out I have a hard time watching but since the pain is so far behind I can watch the whole thing simply as a spectacle and for the love of the game.
     
  25. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member+

    Club: Frosinone
    Mar 29, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    For me, I've lived for the world cup ever since I was seven. I can't go without it. it is a drug to me. I've woken my a$$ up at 3 in the morning to watch Cameroon vs Saudi Arabia when I was 15, I went too far at an early age to go back lol. I'm trapped in it forever
     
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