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Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by Vieri's Left Foot, Dec 3, 2023.

  1. Sam De Martino

    as roma
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2021
    A Gomes I like vergara a lot i just hope conte plays him when he returns from injury which should be maybe this weekend. Its crazy that vergara only got the chance to play due to napoli injury crisis. I hope he is a regular next season for napoli. There are so many vergara s out there yet they never get the chance, its disgraceful. Cacciamani got 2 assists tongight for juve stabia against monza in first leg in 2 2 draw. Im not sure about fagioli to be honest, hes a good player but not sure about international quality. Have you heard of luca bombino who plays in mls he looks a really good player can play for italy or usa and hasnt made a decision yet, he is 19.
     
  2. Sam De Martino

    as roma
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2021
    Both performances where excellent. Remember watching both games. We outclassed belgium and spain and could have won by more particularly against spain. We had those 2 great performances, the other matches we where poor. Really dont want conte as manager but huge credit goes to him for getting that team to quarter final and almost a semi final. We had parolo, sturaro in the midfield, incredible.
     
  3. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Great to hear about Cacciamani's progression. Never heard of him, no. Yeah, I understand your point about Fagioli.
     
  4. Sam De Martino

    as roma
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2021
    We are so stacked with goalkeepers its incredible. We have Donnarumma, carnesecchi, caprile, motta, pessina, palmisani, longini, motta, daffara. Incredible, if only wre had that level in other areas.
     
  5. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Cacciamani e Fagioli!

    Una coppia fatta nel cielo!

    mancano solo Lasagna e Maccarone! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
  6. Sam De Martino

    as roma
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2021
    There is also a lot of noise around doumbia from venezia who looks like a really good player, rumours juve and clubs abroad looking at him. What arw your thoughts on andrea adorante from.venezia he has had another really good season scoring regularly. He is 26 years old, hope he plays in serie a next season. Id call him for the friendly games and give him a chance
     
  7. Sam De Martino

    as roma
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2021
    A Gomes what would you squad be for june friendlies and first nations league games in september?
     
  8. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    1) Prefer Scalvini to Coppola.

    2) Slight modification. Calafiori to LCB (Bologna days and remember his Manager at Basel switched him there because he was worried about his lack of foot speed). And so Bartesaghi at LB.
     
  9. Sam De Martino

    as roma
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2021
    Would you play kayode at RB then and leoni alongside calafiori with bartesaghi at LB then.
     
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  10. Sam De Martino

    as roma
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2021
    A Gomes what would your starting 11 be for september if everyone was fit
     
  11. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Can't say I've watched B matches this season. It might be a moot point because Baldini's already said the June matches are for the U21's. Let's hope he can carry over in the top flight. Remember Patrick Cutrone did so well in B a couple of seasons ago only to struggle in A. Maybe for October or November if he's doing well at the start of next season.
     
  12. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Or Palestra instead of Kayode. But that can work.
     
  13. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    #17938 AGomes, May 16, 2026
    Last edited: May 16, 2026
    - My formation uses a 4-3-3 but Max and Conte don't play this so it's contingent on Mancio returning.

    - Difficult because nobody in Italy plays this so I'm not sure if Pisilli can work WITH Barella. It's likely one or the other. In that case Locatelli on the Left. Barella to start, short leash. Pisilli as a vice-Barella.

    - I know people want to move on from Zaniolo but I have him for now. If anything because I've seen him play in this formation. TBF, he's towed the line this season and kept his nose clean.

    - Too late to edit my previous message. Calafiori could definitely play here (Basel, Bologna) but it's not often to see players play one position for club and another for country. Arsenal have him as a LB so unlikely he plays here.

    - Bastoni and Dimarco have shown me to be systems players. I have no idea of they can play in anything other than 3-5-2. Plus might want to leave Bastoni away from the NT to clear his head. With the Red earned last match he may not be available in the first match in September anyways.

    - As written, Kayode as a vice Palestra.

    - Unpopular opinion, Gatti is only 27. Is coming into his prime as a Defender. He is on my team as a vice Scalvini.

    - All players under 30. Barella the oldest at 29.

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  14. lt22677

    lt22677 Member+

    Napoli
    Italy
    Jul 10, 2022
    VABBENE vediamo punto per punto:

    • Rebuild Italy’s competitiveness internationally, especially the national teams
    Generico NON SPIEGA COME?

    • Expand/support U23 or second-team structures to help the 17–21 age gap
    Giò sotto Gravina è stato fatto tanto

    • Strengthen Serie C/Lega Pro as a true youth-development bridge
    Già sta avvenendo (guardare la quantità notevole di giovani che stanno giocando in serie B/lega Pro)

    • Tighten financial sustainability and licensing rules inspired by UEFA models
    Ok

    • Modernize stadiums and training centers with government/institutional support
    Ok (e quello che ha tentato di fare Gravina, ma i governi se ne sono fregati altamente)

    • Protect Serie A autonomy while making FIGC a stronger central coordinator
    E' CERTO diamo più potere alla serie A, loro sono innocenti VERO?(detassazione giocatori acquistati dall'estero)

    • Fight piracy and improve international TV/media distribution revenue
    E CERTO E' COLPA DELLA PIRATERIA:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    • Recover and reinvest betting-related money into football development
    • Reform rules around agents/intermediaries, especially involving minors
    • Make FIGC less fragmented and more operational/efficient politically
    Ok mi spiegassero COME?

    • Stronger focus on youth technical development and Italian player growth
    Già in esecuzione grazie a Viscidi

    • Increase coordination between youth sectors, clubs, and national teams
    Ok qui serve qualcuno che abbia visione e qui arriviamo al prossimo punto

    • Conte and Allegri discussed as more realistic CT options
    • Possible broader technical reset around the national team structure
    CIOE' mi nomini come CT DUE CHE NON HANNO MAI BRILLATO nella GESTIONE DEI GIOVANI?(lasciamo perdere Guardiola perchè per avere possibilità di coprire i costi dobbiamo fare un GO FUND ME) INOLTRE CHE CAZZO SIGNIFICA UNA broader technical reset???
    CIOE' CON VISCIDI abbiamo una cosa che Funziona e mo la si vuole RESETTARE?:mad:
     
  15. lt22677

    lt22677 Member+

    Napoli
    Italy
    Jul 10, 2022
    #17940 lt22677, May 16, 2026
    Last edited: May 16, 2026
    Vabbeh Allegri il periodo delle vittorie l'ha avuto quando aveva come difesa Bonucci-Barzagli-Chiellini (che era una delle migliori difese al Mondo) e a centrocampo uno come Pirlo, APPENA STA COSA E' FINITA COSA HA COMBINATO?
     
  16. lt22677

    lt22677 Member+

    Napoli
    Italy
    Jul 10, 2022
    OK sono usciti i preconvocati a EURO U17(ATTENZIONE i convocati si sapranno il prossimo VENERDI),posto nel topic apposito qualcosa
     
  17. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    Inacio with an amazing game to end the season, he was constantly dribbling through the defenders and almost provided two balls that should've been assists as well as almost scored two goals.
     

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  18. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    So of the 5 that I hope we cap tie, it sounds like Inacio, Kayode, and Ahanor are definitely going to wait for their call ups. Koloesho and Tresoldi are the other two that I am not sure about.
     
  19. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    Malago's plan is merda. It's not even merda with cream on top. It completely lacks any sport of specifics on major points. That is TYPICAL Italian weasel behavior. They want to sound like they are doing something but really just keep the status quo. I told you guys that NOTHING matters until these snakes are gone.
     
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  20. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Of course now that Vergara is back and everyone else is healthy, he’s not going to see the field again.

    edit: subbed on at the 80th!
     
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  21. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Locatelli isn't good
     
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  22. pindal

    pindal Member

    Aug 26, 2010
    I’m a 4-3-3 fan so i agree with this tye of formation. The only things that wouldn’t work in your formation is:

    - Kean as LW doesn’t work. Despite having good speed, he doesn’t have dribbling to play in that position. In addition: a winger is supposed to provide assists to the team mates, but Kean is a very selfish player.
    If Vergara will play regularly he can develop as LW, as he is also left footed.
    For the future: in one or two seasons, if Cacciamani plays in serie A, he could be the right player for that position.

    Then there are minor other changes i’d do:
    - The CF could be Retegui or Kean, but both passed their top fitness.
    Pio Esposito works very well in a 4-3-3 system, he has a good header and he is able to score if gets assists.
    In addition there is Tresoldi, who must absolutely be capped before Germany does, he is the another one to try, if Pio fails.

    As Left back we have plenty of solutions:
    Ruggeri had a great season with Atletico reaching the Champions league semifinals, but also Bartesaghi is a great prospect. The third option is Bernasconi from Atalanta. And I’m not considering Dimarco because he suits more a 3-5-2 system.
     
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  23. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    he is special
     
  24. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    I put Kean there because he and Retegui do well together.
     
  25. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    #17950 TorontoCalabria, May 17, 2026
    Last edited: May 17, 2026
    I would just start Inacio and Pio right now and whoever is the most in form on the RW/RAM.
    Kean can be first option off the bench and Retegui can play if he comes back to Europe for me.



    wild that Fiorentina sent Juve to hell. Cost them a lot of money. Ndour is as good as Kone who everyone wants to spend silly money on now. Fagioli Ndour are easy additions to a midfield where we should only really have Tonali penciled in. Locatelli again puts in a good sofascore but I don't want mentally broken players that will be 30 plus in 2030 playing anymore. When you can't qualify for the world cup there is no value in your experience to lead.

    I would love to appoint Palladino or Gasperini as we have the players for an attacking 3421.

    3421
    ------------------------Pio
    -------------Inacio------------Ekhator
    Bartesaghi-----Tonali---Fagioli------Palestra
    -----------Calafiori------Leoni---Scalvini
    --------------------------Gigio

    433
    ------------------------Pio
    -------------Inacio------------Ekhator
    Bartesaghi-----Tonali---Pisili-----Palestra
    ------------------------Fagioli-
    ---------------Calafiori---------Scalvini
    --------------------------Gigio
     

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