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Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by Vieri's Left Foot, Dec 3, 2023.

  1. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    @Sam De Martino

    Would you bring Leoni for these 2 matches, even if for 45 Minutes? Or wait until September?
     
  2. Sam De Martino

    as roma
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2021
    AGomes. Leoni isnt fit to play but u would bring him for the experience.and been around the squad. As long as leoni comes back well from his injury he will be a guaranteed starter for italy for years to come. He has the potential to be world class. Id like to see calafiori at LB and leoni and coppola or scalvini as centre backs at kayode at RB. Donnarumma in goal. Midfield of tonali, barella and piselli. Inacio, tresoldi and esposito or kean forward. Would like to try this. If only we could get tresoldi. Feel so crap as world cup nears. Will watch the friendly games, hopefully baldini does what he says.
     
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  3. Sam De Martino

    as roma
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2021
    Hope carnescchi plays one game and caprile the other friendly if called or palmisani. Its pointless playing donnarumma not see why he is called unless he is there to encourage the players.
     
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  4. Sam De Martino

    as roma
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2021
    A Gomes, what would your squad be for friendly games and for september. Would love to see your selections.
     
  5. Pambiero

    Pambiero Member

    Juventus
    Italy
    Mar 21, 2021
    Personally I can’t wait for u-17 and u-19 euros
     
  6. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Serie B gave us some good fruit this year
     
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  7. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    They’re reporting that Conte and Napoli are going to continue for another year. So that will rule him out of the Italy job. This bastard is ruining my life
     
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  8. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    You know its a funny thing about Antonio Conte.

    I'm not sure if it is because he is terrible with the media or with his players but even though everyone loves to hate him , the guy has been the most successful manager Italy has produced since at least 2012.

    Juventus
    Serie A: 2011–12, 2012–13, 2013–14
    Supercoppa Italiana: 2012, 2013

    Italy national team
    Euro Quarter-finals 2016

    Chelsea
    Premier League:
    2016–17
    FA Cup: 2017–18

    Inter Milan
    Serie A: 2020–21
    UEFA Europa League
    runner-up: 2019–20

    Napoli
    Serie A: 2024–25
    Supercoppa Italiana: 2025–26

    Other than maybe Allegri, no one else has come even close to winning as much as he has.
     
  9. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Impressive. Now post his European record
     
  10. johnny6

    johnny6 Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2011
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Pick your poison scenario.

    Allegri next.
     
  11. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    With the exception of Roma's Conference league , Italy hasn't won anything in Europe since 2010.
     
  12. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Today I learned that Olise, who is France’s top winger right now, can’t even speak French.

    2053938736048570738 is not a valid tweet id
     
  13. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Atalanta won the Europa league two years ago.

    Point stands that Conte’s European record is abysmal when you look at the talent he has managed
     
  14. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Rabiot the best French player.

    Wink wink.
     
  15. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Oh yeah I forgot about Atalanta.

    That is how much I remember Italy's Euro victories.

    Like them or not, the fact remains that both Conte and Allegri are Italy's most winninest coaches of the last 16 years.
     
  16. johnny6

    johnny6 Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2011
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Conte is great as a short term coach which is why in the past I was all for him going on the NT but these past couple of seasons not so much. It was remarkable was he accomplished in 2016 with a bunch of bums from a random tabacchino
     
  17. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    A fact that means very little today. These guys specialize in things that hurt Italian football. They need to go to Arabia and ******** off
     
  18. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #17918 falvo, May 16, 2026
    Last edited: May 16, 2026
    Gasperini's Atalanta, with only a few Italian players , also did very little to help Italian football and/or Italian players.
     
  19. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
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    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    When they’re going to write the book on the death of calcio, there’s going to be a chapter dedicated to both Conte and Allegri. Two guys who are regarded as the best we have. I’m not exaggerating, but Italy will only turn the corner when these guys go away. I don’t care what anyone says, the bottom learns from the top. It’s not a coincidence that 3/4’s of all the coaches in the Italian pyramid have modelled their games after both Conte and Allegri. 3-5-2 dell cazzo. The result is a football movement that is scared to risk when the obvious first step to change is to begin risking. All these things are considered too risky in Italy:

    - Only playing with a back 4
    - Playing with a high line
    - Playing with winger who can actually dribble
    - Not playing with wingbacks who can play a back 5
    - Aggressively pressing in your opponents half
    - Playing with young players
    - Developing young players in your first team
     
  20. itaNapoli

    itaNapoli Member

    Jun 15, 2004
    At this point base on how he has played with his feet, it would be wise to take a look at the other options. We need to know what we have.
     
  21. itaNapoli

    itaNapoli Member

    Jun 15, 2004
     
  22. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Interesting squabble between journalists. Alfredo Pedulla going at it with Zazzaroni. Pedulla implying that Zazzaroni made up the rumours of Real wanting Allegri.



    @AGomes you asked me weeks ago why it matters what journalists say. If this rumour is true, it just confirms that journalists are vehicles to get narratives out there. Controlling public opinion is important. If Real Madrid is looking to get Allegri then he must be a great coach right?
     
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  23. Leo Bartoni

    Leo Bartoni Member

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Dec 22, 2024
    #17923 Leo Bartoni, May 16, 2026
    Last edited: May 16, 2026
    That article I posted, and the quotes therein supported that he didn't want to sell Tonali. Honestly though, I'm surprised you didn't know that he wanted to go with youth at Milan given all the discussions regarding his "virtuous project"?

    Maldini worked Milan's youth development. He was the director of development in 2018-19 before becoming technical director. As technical director (2019–2023), he focused on a "virtuous project" emphasizing young, hungry players, lowering the squad's average age, and building sustainably, by often highlighting support for young talents.
    https://sempremilan.com/maldini-dis...uous-project-at-length-in-revealing-interview

    I think you will agree that this youth movement initiative of his would naturally extend itself should he be involved with the Italian federation.



    Milan was better with him than they were before and after him. I think a player of his stature would also be less inclined towards corruption. I think you guys would do well with a tactician like Baldini who knows the youth well, going with a youth movement maintaining key players for leadership that you already have. Take a page out of Spain and Argentina's book. Both promoted their U21 manager and the results speak for themselves. Italy obviously has talent in their youth ranks. You need a manager who understands the talents and how to use them. I hope you do well in the upcoming fiendlies. You have a Nation's League and EURO to build upon. Palestra looked strong in that last game and that's more of what you need instead of safe old players.
     
  24. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    #17924 AGomes, May 16, 2026
    Last edited: May 16, 2026
    Love this Lineup but somehow would like to see Fagioli and Vergara as his sub in there. Baldini plays a 4-3-3 and if this leaked list is anything to go by it should be very close to what you've written.

    I too don't know if they should play Gigio in these 2 Friendlies. As Captain it's great to see he wants to be there but I'd sooner give Carneseccchi and Motta of Lazio 1 match a piece. Or as you wrote, Elia Caprile. Better still.
     
  25. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Conte

    Recently on a podcast it was mentioned about Conte's 2016 team. Carlo Garganese brought up a good point in that Italy's best 2 performances in that tournament were against Belgium and Spain and probably not a coincidence for both those matches he had more than 4 days to prepare. Don't know if it's because of the earlier comment that he runs his players into the ground with his training methods or he just can't handle 2 games a week. Probably probably a little bit of both.
     

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