Senior Team Discussion

Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by Vieri's Left Foot, Dec 3, 2023.

  1. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    This reminds me of the documentary I watched on those Yugoslavian basketball players from the 90s. Some fan tried showing off a Croatian flag at the end of the game and it turned into a big thing.
     
  2. Leo Bartoni

    Leo Bartoni Member

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Dec 22, 2024
    He was fired because that is exactly what he wanted to do and ownership had opposite ideas. He brought Tonali to the first team and was upset at his sale.

    https://football-italia.net/maldini...-milan-dismissal-decision-made-months-before/

    The move in firing him has only benefited my Inter so I'm not complaining. Though, he's precisely the quality of character that you need in administration. He's a winner on and off the pitch and proved it with a scudetto and a semi final appearance for the first time in 16 years, with defeat to my Inter. After his dismissal Milan have been a big joke of a club. Aimless in their objectives.
     
  3. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    #17778 AGomes, May 9, 2026
    Last edited: May 9, 2026
    Where in that article does it say he prioritized Italian players? All he says is: “Every player who was signed was chosen by me, Boban and Massara," and other players he wanted to (nationality not specified) was not approved. The sale of Tonali really doesn’t mean anything other than as a football man, Maldini knew selling a player like Tonali for money was not a wise move but ir was great for the bean counters.
     
  4. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Maldini had his fair share of stinkers. We've wasted so much on garbage soccer players.
    Recruitment just embarrassing
     
  5. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    he also had 0 service at all lol. He had N'Dri, Coulibaly and Pierotti as his supporting cast
     
  6. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Italy has to start from scratch just go with like 90% new team
     
  7. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
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  8. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    They were out there busting their assses.
     
  9. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Between the 3 of them, they have a combined 2 assists all season... they can't create shit.

    Wasted year of development for Camarda, let's hope he's on a proper team next year.
     
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  10. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Yup. 4 month layoff with that shoulder injury didn't help matters. He'd probably be an amazing fit at Como.
     
  11. johnny6

    johnny6 Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2011
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    If you watch Serie A highlights at x1.20 speed on YT they almost look like a modern league.
     
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  12. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Age-wise they are not old. What needs to change:

    - Formation.
    - Players to play this formation.

    They can use some existing players.
     
  13. Leo Bartoni

    Leo Bartoni Member

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Dec 22, 2024
    #17788 Leo Bartoni, May 10, 2026
    Last edited: May 10, 2026
    He said many times he wanted to go with a youth movement and did in the early stages where Milan was one of the youngest teams in Italy and Europe. It paid off.

    This is a classic example of ownership not knowing what they're doing but insisting on having a say in the day to day operations

    "There are more or less 35-40 players in our cycle and I didn’t sign the contracts for any of them, not even for those on loan. In fact, many proposed solutions were not approved, I was told no so many times. It happens.

    “Sometimes they simply told me no, sometimes the budget was reduced. In meetings I often heard: ‘I don’t understand anything about football’, but in the end there was always a ‘but’."


    Tonali was one example, and Maldini was not a fan of that sale.

    "We would’ve done everything possible not to let him go, even in the face of such an important offer. We’ve never been totally against the sale of one of our important players, but there wasn’t a real need either.

    “I like to remember that we spent an amount equal to about a fifth of the value of the transfer to purchase him and that even in that case, we had to have lively discussions with the CEO and owners. None of them wanted to buy him, not even the scouting area.”

    Since he left how much better have they done and what has been their general market strategy? All of that was good for my Inter, bad for Milan. While he was there, they were rebuilt enough to capture a scudetto and go deep in the Champions League. Milan made a mistake and Italy would not be harmed by a legend like him who is respected leading the federation, or in some capacity. It would at least signal that they're willing to enact real change rather than stick to a cycle of good old boy dinosaurs.
     
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  14. Leo Bartoni

    Leo Bartoni Member

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Dec 22, 2024
    When you cap Brazilians or Argentinians it's not the best or even those who would make the first team. This is different because he is a genuine talent. Brazil may very well make that attempt, or more accurately Ancelotti may try, however all the talking points signal that Inacio wants to stay with Italy. If there was going to be a serious attempt, it should have happened by now given the World Cup is a month away. Ancelotti doesn't strike me as the sort of manager that makes last minute decisions.
     
  15. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    #17790 AGomes, May 10, 2026
    Last edited: May 10, 2026
    Cristian Volpato resisted the temptation to switch to Australia and a guaranteed spot in 2022 and with this likely 2026.

    If Brazil had a rash of injuries would they call Inacio? Would he jump ship? Knowing what I do of Brazil, likely not. This would be really low of a former Italy player, Ancelotti, to do.

    Elsewhere someone made a good comment that Luca Reggiani and he are best friends, roommates and been together with the U15 Italy and now at BvB and Reggiani's presence could keep him in Azzurro.
     
  16. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Incacio’s father made his bones in Italy and the kids mother is Italian. The guy isn’t going to play for Brazil.


    Also like I’ve said if Italy isn’t their dream to play for then I don’t want to see them. I’d rather see a brick layer playing in Serie D get a call up over someone just using the national team to advance their career and get bigger higher paying contracts.
     
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  17. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Only one Italian team in the top 6 have an Italian goalkeeper starting…

    man before goalkeeper was the one position that would almost always be an Italian…
     
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  18. johnny6

    johnny6 Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2011
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Could you imagine if Allegri got the Italy job? We'd be absolutely screwed.
     
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  19. itaNapoli

    itaNapoli Member

    Jun 15, 2004
    The scary part is that name is gonna be floated non stop and is a possibility.
     
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  20. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Watching. What a dreadful Milan out there.
     
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  21. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    How does Magic Mike not save that?
     
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  22. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Milan missing out on the CL might actually be one of the best things to happen to Italian football this year. No offense @Rossonero23
     
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  23. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Italys decline coincides with pos milan being losers.
    Napoli and roma in cl. Lol
    Two abomination clubs
     
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  24. itaNapoli

    itaNapoli Member

    Jun 15, 2004
    Whole thing needs to be rebuilt from the ground up
     
  25. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Milan loses to Atalanta 2-3!
     

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