Senior Team Discussion

Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by Vieri's Left Foot, Dec 3, 2023.

  1. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    Yes as bad as we are now the talent in the 2010s was dire. Even going back to the late 2000s outside DeRossi Cassano there were no quality players under 30. The 2010s were bleak. There were some improvements in the player development along the way and then again more recently there seems to have been further improvements. Still a long way to go to fix the pipeline but it was sparse.
     
  2. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    Coppola has done well in Paris and Koleosho gets minutes. Coppola is what people want Buongiorno to be. You can see it on his face he has a higher level of focus. Paris FC is a great project I would be happy is any young Italians went there. Playing Ligue 1 is way better for development than playing Serie B and the transition to life in France is no big deal for a young Italian. More should look to Ligue 1.
     
  3. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    3 fcking players one of which being Ciro Immobile that did fck all when he came back to Italy ? Honestly people need to stop thinking they have something to add to the conversation.


    Every jackass with a pulse from former players, coaches, and sporting directors have something to say and know something and guess how many of these people actively tried to fix the situation!? None not one fcking person talking about the issues with the league have done anything. Not even that Jackass Capello who by the way never even fought to take over the national team he chose to fck off to England and make a complete clown show of it.

    like I’ve said repeatedly Italians love to talk, complain, and point fingers…. But find me one Italian outside of Baggio that really fcking tried to do something.


    We sit here arguing about formations or how X type of coach is the problem with Italy. None of that matters the real problem is Italy on all fcking levels fails its youth to the point that they just don’t care or they leave. There is no country in this world that treats the youth as badly as Italy does. Till that is fixed you might as well give up any chance of Italy’s national team doing anything.
     
  4. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Too bad balotelli has down syndrom
     
  5. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Ahh jeez, not this again...

    Supposedly Italians have the market cornered on whining, Italians have the market cornered on finger-pointing, Italians have the market cornered on assigning blame to others.

    Given that the Manager of Paris FC is *NOT* Italian and he is making the same comments Italians are making, then maybe we are all correct.

    Let's see if these idiots pass reforms. I have no idea how long it will take but they would be wise to. It's hurting their product and balance sheet. Missing participation money at 3 consecutive WC's is something they would want to correct for themselves, if anything.

    If Italy gets their shit together...
     
  6. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    before the B-B-C of Juve... there was the A-B-C del Italia. I remember i laughed when i saw the headline in the Gazzetta.

    [​IMG]
     
  7. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    He made a commentary on Italian teams not having enough Italians. Objectively true lol.

    But yeah "what an asshole"
     
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  8. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    It’s low hanging fruit commentary that anyone can make. It’s completely unnecessary it’s like telling Firefighter that a building is on fire while they are actively putting it out.

    I’m done with hearing it. I’m done with talking heads. I want people to take action.

    Spalletti spoke and during today’s game what stopped him from putting on one of juves youth players ?
     
  9. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    He’s a complete outsider so there’s no action to take. But as a foreign coach he’s doing his part by playing both Coppola and Koloesho. So thank him
     
  10. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    You are missing the point. His comments have been said to death everyone knows so why say anything ? He should be more concerned with his own league.
     
  11. itaNapoli

    itaNapoli Member

    Jun 15, 2004
     
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  12. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Oh stop it. Gabbia at his best is an OK soccer player.
     
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  13. itaNapoli

    itaNapoli Member

    Jun 15, 2004
     
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  14. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    You shouldn't let it bother you, everyone is going to dunk on us, we are a laughing stock, it's gunna keep happening in until we make a World Cup. We could literally win the Euros and I'd guarantee you ppl would still clown us.
     
  15. itaNapoli

    itaNapoli Member

    Jun 15, 2004
     
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  16. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Owners and fans will not have learned a ********ing thing from this. From reading these comments from fans in Italy they are more than content to get the very worst foreigners for their MDF teams.
     
  17. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    We are free to interpret things differently, but I don't take it that he's ridiculing the Italy team. He's obviously ridiculing the league for being overrun with foreigners.
     
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  18. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    This ********ing sucks.
     
  19. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
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  20. itaNapoli

    itaNapoli Member

    Jun 15, 2004
    #17195 itaNapoli, Apr 20, 2026
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2026




    Whatever this means …

    Malagò: «Non so ancora se mi candiderò alla presidenza della FIGC: valuterò dopo gli incontri con le componenti federali»

     
  21. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    Cancellieri is a good option for a RAM in a 4231 system.
    We don't need players to score 15 goals to be tactically useful.
    Mancini would employ a back 4 and make the most of the talent available.
    Though I prefer just using Baldini.
     
  22. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    "Former Italian defender Leonardo Bonucci believes that the current Azzurri squad is stronger than the one that won the Euros in 2021, but needs more ‘leadership and personality"

    No one wants to hear this now but in terms of the talent pool he is correct. The fact that so many players that failed at Euro 2024 were still used was a failure of management. The best 3 or 4 players in 2020 were better but in terms of the depth we are improving it is just a glacial pace.
    Remember players like Pessina Belotti Emerson Toloi Castrovilli were in the 2020 squad.
    Even 2021 Florenzi/Bernadeschi were below players that were not even called this go around.

    Spalletti really made a mess. Perhaps it would have been better for him to see the job through to the end. I think he would have probably put forward a better 11 than Gatusso for the playoffs though the clash with the Inter block philosophically was maybe too much for him to overcome.
     
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  23. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    #17198 AGomes, Apr 20, 2026
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2026
    Bonucci is correct.

    Many of us have commented on here for 2 years that there is lack of leadership.

    We have considered it Tonali because he is the teams best player and probably because of the time he got into it with Denzel Dumfries over Theo lol, but is he really a leader?
     
  24. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    If the conversation from anyone at the top is to the effect that "it isn't as bad as it seems", get rid of that person right away. It is an unmitigated disaster, and a complete overhaul needs to take place.
     
  25. itaNapoli

    itaNapoli Member

    Jun 15, 2004
    We are missing that Elite or almost Elite defender we always had to lead and be an anchor. We need to be developing all positions on the field.
     
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