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Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by Vieri's Left Foot, Dec 3, 2023.

  1. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    A few things can be true at the same time:

    1. We are producing better youth talent but it isn't being developed.
    2. This whole argument that we don't have Italian talent is silly. Italians from Sicily, Calabria, Campania, Puglia and other regions immigrated to N. America and were some of the BEST ATHLETES in their sports.

    There is nothing wrong with our kids. The problem is that we don't foster the talent. Sicily has the highest birthrate of any region in Italy. What scuole di calcio have been developed there? How are poor kids being incentivized and nurtured to play? How are they given shots to play for clubs?

    I bet ANY MONEY that there are blazing fast and skilled kids in Sicily that just are lost in the system because of our short sightedness, lack of planning, lazy scouting, and corruption.
     
  2. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    i agree with this. look at Domenico Berardi. he was only a professional by mistake. He was discovered at 16 years old when he went to go visit his brother at University by someone with Sassuolo. Had he not been seen then, we may never have known who he was. And despite some guys that don't like him or see his talents, he helped us win a euro.
     
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  3. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Good on Ruggieri for going 90 today.

    Speaking of Fullbacks, supposedly Palestra is usually on the Left but Cagliari deploy him on the Right.

    Something to look out for should he move on.
     
  4. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
     
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  5. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    #16855 AGomes, Apr 14, 2026
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2026
    No update but I still maintain Iran won't go. Can you imagine Iran vs USA in Round 32?

    Today Jews and Israeli's are upset at at Giorgia Meloni for suspending a defence co-operation Italy and israel had. In their eyes Italians are supposed to be OK with genocide. Also Donnie not too happy at la Giorgia as she criticized Trump mocking Papa Leone.

    I'm only writing this because I wouldn't be surprised if Israel tell Trump to tell Infantino that any repechage tournament or replacement team does not include Italy. Trump or the US Administration wouldn't know how important football is in Italy but Israel sure would.

    *NOTE to Mods
     
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  6. lt22677

    lt22677 Member+

    Napoli
    Italy
    Jul 10, 2022
    #16856 lt22677, Apr 14, 2026
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2026
    Dai visto che un pò di tempo ce l'ho facciamo una analisi veloce veloce prendendo come riferimento l'U19(Torneo rimasto sempre con format uguale e con che da alcuni vantaggi per un analisi di come sta andando il ns settore giovanile cosi da farvi VISUALIZZARE COSA E' SUCCESSO

    ANNO ANDAMENTO CLASSE D'ETA
    2000 eliminata 2 fase nati 1981 Sentenza Bosman
    2001 eliminata 1 fase nati 1982
    2002 eliminata 1 fase nati 1983
    2003 Vincitori * nati 1984
    2004 eliminata gironi * nati 1985
    2005 eliminata 2 fase nati 1986 Influenza Sacchi in FIGC
    2006 eliminata 1 fase nati 1987
    2007 eliminata 2 fase nati 1988
    2008 finale * nati 1989
    2009 eliminata 1 fase nati 1990
    2010 eliminata gironi * nati 1991 Sacchi diventa Coord. Giovanili
    2011 eliminata 2 fase nati 1992
    2012 eliminata 2 fase nati 1993
    2013 eliminata 2 fase nati 1994
    2014 eliminata 2 fase nati 1995 Dimissioni Sacchi Coor. Giovan.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2015 eliminata 2 fase nati 1996 Viscidi Coordinatore Giov.
    2016 finale * nati 1997
    2017 eliminata 2 fase nati 1998
    2018 finale * nati 1999
    2019 eliminata gironi * nati 2000
    2020 non disputata
    2021 non disputata
    2022 semifinale * nati 2003
    2023 vincitori * nati 2004
    2024 semifinale * nati 2005
    2025 eliminata 2 fase nati 2006
    2026 qualificata fase finale (in Corso) nati 2007

    mondiale U20
    2001 non qualificata
    2003 non qualificata
    2005 qualificata
    2007 non qualificata
    2009 qualificata
    2011 non qualificata Sacchi Coord. Giovanili(2010)
    2013 non qualificata Dimissione Sacchi 2014
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2015 non qualificata Viscidi Coordinatore Giov.
    2017 qualificata
    2019 qualificata
    2021 non disputata
    2023 qualificata
    2025 qualificata
    2027 siamo in Corsa (dipende dal risultato di Euro U19 2026)

    BENE TIRATE VOI LE SOMME;) ma già così potete capire visivamente cosa è successo

    PS in rosso ho messo la qualificazione alla fase finale sia di Euro U19 che di World Cup U20
     
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  7. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    LMAO. CAN YOU IMAGINE?

    LOL @ Hood Action News :ROFLMAO:

     
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  8. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member+

    Club: Frosinone
    Mar 29, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Not just Sicilia. I would bet right in line with you that Roma is also a talent bed mismanaged by its own clubs. I bet there has been talent in Roma up to even to now, squashed by the very Roman clubs that once fostered space for youth.

    The saddest recent case being Alessio Riccardi discarded by the very system he thrived in
     
  9. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I have nothing personal against Nico, I just lament the fact the he never hit his full potential. I think that he had enough talent to be a generational crack. If he had moved on from Sassuolo 10 years ago when he had to, there’s no telling how good he could have been.
     
  10. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Atleti fans are calling Ruggeri Waluigi and now I can’t unsee it
     
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  11. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    fair.. but we can play devils advocate. Maybe with the way italian clubs have mismanaged young italian talent he was right to stay at Sassuolo where he was guaranteed playtime instead of losing his spot at Juventus or Inter or wherever to Opti Poba or Jovan Slavicovic
     
  12. itaNapoli

    itaNapoli Member

    Jun 15, 2004
     
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  13. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I prefer atletico and simeone for glory
     
  14. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Don Silvio died. Rip King
     
  15. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I laughed so hard reading this.
    I'm rooting for the terrorist to somehow win it all.
    Simeone deep down is your classic Italian negative coach !!
     
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  16. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    Yes the stats that were released told the tale we are 49th out of 50 leagues in minutes given to under 21 players. That is all. The managers and the clubs are cowards and simply want to buy players 23 and up that are already experienced.

    This is dumb because it is not financially sustainable and you are missing out on so much talent that you have direct access to but that is the mentality and it wont be broken unless they are forced. Football has such a large pool that a league like Serie A can sign players 23 and up from all over the world indefinitely.

    They need to be forced.
     
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  17. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    meanwhile DiMarco was ripped apart by a 16 year old Yamal in 2024.
    Ruggeri is an athlete not a trick shot specialist. That is the difference.
     
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  18. itaNapoli

    itaNapoli Member

    Jun 15, 2004
    And he made Bosnian fans think they have the second coming of Yamal lol
     
  19. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    You just have to laugh

    Reading some comments elsewhere on BS about a possible Iran replacements and somebody suggests giving it to CONCACAF. Because 3 automatic spots and 6 total for a Confederation that has ONE SF appearance in the tournaments history, USA in 1930, makes sense...

    Another was CONMEBOL and have Bolivia go. Because 70% of that Confederation seems about right...
     
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  20. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Giovanni Malagò with Gianni Agnelli

    20260414_222936.jpg
     
  21. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member+

    Club: Frosinone
    Mar 29, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Straight Facts
     
  22. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023


    Imagine if that was Politano.
     
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  23. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member+

    Club: Frosinone
    Mar 29, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I'd rather not!
     
  24. WPG_Azzurri

    WPG_Azzurri Member

    Italy
    Mar 25, 2025
    Watching Politano get the ball, do nothing with it, and spin it back with our WC dreams hanging in the balance was the definition of a torture chamber.
     
  25. itaNapoli

    itaNapoli Member

    Jun 15, 2004
    Gattuso has to be the worst coach ever
     
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