Senior Team Discussion

Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by Vieri's Left Foot, Dec 3, 2023.

  1. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    #11776 AGomes, Nov 17, 2025
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2025
    See I wouldn't have grabbed Haaland's nutsack but I would have chirped him. Probably point out that he's a Norwegian living in England and this Italian sojourn of his is likely the best meal he's ever had.
     
  2. Juice10

    Juice10 Member

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Jun 20, 2024
    This here. Is absolutely correct. It is not a talent issue, it is 100% a balance and psychological issue. People underestimate how important a defence must compliment the individual players strengths and weaknesses. Football is not like tennis, it is not an individual sport, it is a team sport. Which is why a team like a well oiled machine will always beat a team full of individual stars that is not balanced. The psychological issue can only be fixed once the balance is sorted. Untill then they will always go on the pitch feeling insecure and unable to freely express themselves. It is a horrible situation.
     
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  3. Juice10

    Juice10 Member

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Jun 20, 2024
    No. The nerves will only go away once the balance of this team has been sorted. It is the same in any performance in almost any field, for example a singer forced to sing in a register he or she is not comfortable in. The singer will be straining to hit the notes and unless the composition is changed to fit the singer, that singer will always be a nervous wreck before any performance and perform horribly.
     
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  4. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    Yes spot on... and the final against PSG was more about PSG being great as they then did the same thing to Real Madrid in the club world cup. We saw this at the Euros that the balance was really off in the Switzerland game and since then nearly two years later neither Spalletti or Gatusso has addressed this properly.

    We needed a manager that was brave enough to not use/call certain players and maybe field a less talented 11 with balance in mind. As it stands its a Serie A all star team that isn't even that good as far as individual talent so it's a worst of both worlds.

    Tonali Ricci Barella should work as a balanced midfield. I don't think we can play with 2 strikers unless we play two proper wing backs and have 3 central defenders the way Inter does. Politano and Di Lorenzo can't play these positions at all.

    A 433 that features less talent is probably the answer. You may have to sit DiMarco and Bastoni and one of the CFs on the bench. Or you can do a 352/532 and try and copy Inter man for man but you can't do this half way thing. It's such a mess. No wonder they have no confidence.
     
  5. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member+

    Frosinone
    Mar 29, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    For me, I think if we qualify, we will see a tournament akin to EURO 2024. If the team gets out of the group they do it in the most mundane way and eventually exit the knockouts at a pedestrian pace weltering in the heat, potentially just giving up on themselves and their nation entirely against a better organized side.

    Unless we smash the playoffs, but to be real, we aren't smashing the playoffs. instead, it will be hell for all involved including the fans whether we make it out or not.
     
  6. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Well. Last March the topic was what group was preferred, Norway in a group of 5 or Slovakia in a group of 4. Determined if won or lost the UNL QF.

    Germany stumbled in their match in Slovakia at the start of Qualifiers but today battered them 6-0.

    In retrospect, the Slovakia group would have been preferred over Norway. Written that, Italy would have probably bungled had they won the QF and been with them. Only 6 Goals Scored in 6 matches for Slovakia.

    Real missed opportunity not to have won that QF Tie.
     
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  7. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    On two of our goals we had double teams that were beaten. The men were in position. They failed. Some of this is down to the players. Now, certainly it doesn't help that Politano is being asked to play a position where he has to defend, but he's got to do better. He has great change of direction and yet he's being caught off-balance.
     
  8. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Would prefer to avoid Romania.

    Mixed bag with Results but plenty of Romanian's in Italy.
     
  9. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #11784 falvo, Nov 17, 2025
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2025
    This is when Italy was a real force!

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    reti: Graziani, Chinaglia, Savoldi, Cordova, Fuglseth r.
    Italia 1° tempo [​IMG][​IMG]
    Zoff, Gentile, Rocca, Cordova, Facchetti cap., Bini,
    Graziani, Antognoni, Chinaglia, Capello, Bettega.
    Italia 2° tempo [​IMG][​IMG]
    Castellini, Gentile, Rocca, Martini, Bellugi, Facchetti,
    Graziani, Re Cecconi, Savoldi, Cordova, Bettega.

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  10. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    Yup. Those were real men. Look at Gentile's face. You think Haaland would do anything against him? Imagine what they would do to fckin morons like Scamacca or Zaniolo? LMAO
     
  11. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    You are really underestimating Haaland. He already is the greatest Norwegian footballer of all time and will go down as one of the greatest strikers of all time when he retires.
     
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  12. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member+

    Frosinone
    Mar 29, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Antognoni what a player.

    How did we get so s***
     
  13. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Scalvini is broken he isn’t going to be Italy’s savior he will be another Caldera.
     
  14. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    We need to follow the Spain’s national team coaching system and have the same coach follow the young players up to the senior side.
     
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  15. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    oh come on. Zaniolo would piss in Norway's dressing room without hesitation!! LOL
     
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  16. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    starting to think so. i feel like he's been injured more than available and always during INTL windows.
     
  17. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
  18. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    #11794 Vieri#9, Nov 18, 2025
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2025
    We are now in Pot 2 if we make the World Cup and Fifa changes the seedings. Pot 3 has Ecuador, Norway, and potentially Turkey. Those 3 teams are levels above us. Here are all the seedings currently:

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  19. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    To think Chinaglia had problems with the National Team manager.

    Giorgio Chinaglia with the Cosmos was the greatest goalscorer I’ve ever seen.

    The only ones who maybe I can think of who came close were Altobelli, Vieri, Vialli,DiNatale and Toni later in his career.

    Pippo Inzaghi was great too but not like those guys but I’d kill for one of them today..
     
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  20. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Vialli was roided up like Mcguire
     
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  21. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    No one ever talks about it but I really wonder if the steroids caused Vialli’s cancer later in life?
     
  22. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    How are Ecuador levels above Italy? Not saying Ecuador couldn't beat Italy but didn’t Italy beat them a couple of years ago? The same Ecuador that were at a numerical advantage for 86 Minutes against Canada last week and couldn't score? Turkiye, 0-0 Result last time the 2 teams met ahead of Euro'24 with Italy superior.

    IMO, would probably want to play the US from Pot 1. Not a slight in the least. Of course the US on their day could win but as I understand it their recent record against European teams have been poor lately. Only for that reason.

    Gattuso's comments of Norway took their first shot on goal in the 2nd half and we became scared is very concerning.
     
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  23. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member+

    Frosinone
    Mar 29, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Chinaglia in the Lazio scudetto season unbelievable.

    Vieri Ateltico Madrid season was unreal, for me his peak. I was in awe.

    Altobelli the most underrated striker for italia. An all time great and consistently deadly.

    Toni there were signs at Vicenza, Brescia, and then Palermo grew...then La Viola through Bayern holy s*** the best striker in the world. Unreal.
     
  24. WPG_Azzurri

    WPG_Azzurri Member

    Italy
    Mar 25, 2025
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    Imagine employing these antics on the pitch and then doing whatever the ******** he did to defend on that 4th goal. LOL.

    Just a clown.
     
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