Senior Team Discussion

Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by Vieri's Left Foot, Dec 3, 2023.

  1. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Disgusting performance.
    Thank god Italy host the euros in 32

    Bunch of colostomy bags out there. Shit bags
     
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  2. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    It’s going to be a fact Italians don’t have kids. Immigrants in Italy do have kids and they play football with a hunger to get their family a better life. Italians can’t even make their own country better for themselves and leave. Italy has the worst brain drain in Europe.
     
  3. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    The national team finally mirrors the country’s decline.
     
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  4. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    This group lacks so much balls that any opponent is dangerous and anything can happen in a one off elimination game. These players have to know that they will inherit one of the biggest disasters and darkest day in calcio history if they don’t succeed.
     
  5. Juice10

    Juice10 Member

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Jun 20, 2024
    I think Pio certainly has potential, I think him and Camarda could be the future. He will need a bit more experience and I think he has been showing some promises. Locatelli on the other hand, I fully agree, his shots are dreadful. If it is on target it is always a soft shot straight to the Goalkeepers hands.
     
  6. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    When is the draw?
     
  7. Juice10

    Juice10 Member

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Jun 20, 2024
    With back to back deafeats to Norway like this, if we rely on this core. WE WILL be eliminated by literally any team. The morale is broken. Even if they believe they are over it mentally before the playoffs, the mental collapse will rear its ugly head as soon as the match begins again. I have no doubt about it, because it is a psychological issue, systemic at this point and has spread through the team. At least half the team needs to be gutted out.
     
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  8. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Thursday
     
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  9. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    It’s too late to hit the reset button now and doing so is going to be suicide. So like it or not, this is the core of the team.

    Gattuso was brought in as a compromise. He was the third choice after Ranieri and Pioli. He isn’t a grand philosopher of the game and he isn’t particularly good at selections. He was seen as someone who at least could transmit his passion and grinta to the players and maybe that could be the difference. After all this is the job no one wanted. He has two games to do it.
     
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  10. Juice10

    Juice10 Member

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Jun 20, 2024
    The only positive we can take is that this defeat actually strengthens our chances for going through. Because if Norway just sat back and we won, everyone would be saying there is improvement and kept the same core players. But now, it is obvious to everyone without a shadow of doubt that we absolutely need to change up the team drastically. Not because of technical skill, but because at least half of this team is broken psychologically. There is no solution with most of these players. They are utterly broken. If we can get Calafiori, Kean, Chiesa, Kayode, Scalvini, Tonali and Ricci all healthy for the play offs, I say we still have a chance.

    In addition, it has shown that a defensive approach is suicide. We have to try outscore our opponents. Because WE WILL concede no matter what tactics we employ. We have to play a very agressive and offensive game. At least for now.
     
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  11. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    Yes exactly between Buongiornos Scalvini's injuries and Bastoni being the only experienced defender and Calafiori Udogie Cambiaso Di Marco Spinazolla all being LB's and no one from the generation between the BBC and this crop being very good we have been throwing these guys out into the fire since 2024.

    In the past we always had a Ferrara Materatzzi or an Iuliano to plug in as a veteran while the defenders were still developing. Even Chiellini was not great early on going back to Euro 2008 and we had to play Panucci next to him at CB... the reality is we've been plugging holes in our defence since 2006 ...for whatever reason we've lacked depth in defence for a long long time. The BBC really papered over the reality.

    We haven't really had a great RB since Zambrotta .. Abate Maggio Di Lorenzo have all been average and before Spinazolla we didn't have a LB since Grosso who was a bit of a journey man that replaced a retired Maldini who goes back to the 80s because there was really no one else.
     
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  12. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Will the FIGC release the players from their clubs and keep them training-ritiro at Coverciano or is that too good to be true?
     
  13. Juice10

    Juice10 Member

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Jun 20, 2024
    It is better to take the risk of not going at all, than just to go and suffer utter humiliation at the group stages. We have nothing to loose, we are already a laughing stock at this point. Might as well try something different. Going with players like Di Lo and Locatelli... that is guaranteed suicide.
     
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  14. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member+

    Frosinone
    Mar 29, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #11714 Azzurrifan87, Nov 16, 2025
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2025
    I may have misunderstood Gattuso, but he said he expects not to have the players in February. I can't tell if he means he already knows this or is just being realistic about the chances
     
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  15. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    The core of the team is more than Di Lorenzo though it also includes the inter block. Dropping Di Lorenzo wouldn’t cause an earthquake in the squad. In fact he should have been dropped already. Locatelli is a squad player at best. Whether he is part of this national team or not, doesn’t change our fortunes. When a guy as average as him is on the national team, it just speaks volumes about our depth. His supporters have been screaming for 3 years that he should have been apart of the Italy team and now they’ve been very quiet lately.
     
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  16. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Ahh Bravo. This is what I wrote upthread. If Italy score one of their 4 chances to make it 2-0 (I count 4), Norway likely mails in the 2nd Half and we are happy with them. It masks shortcomings. This could be a blessing in disguise.
     
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  17. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    #11717 Vieri#9, Nov 16, 2025
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2025
    If Norway didn't have a 9 goal cushion lead, the score would've been worse than 4-1. They took it easy on us.

    And I could care less about being in a top 4 league to play on a B tier team when better teams than us our picking from the freaking MLS. I could care less. I will continue to name Verratti or Acerbi or Berardi or Grifo until these other losers on our team are out.

    I can't wait for a new cycle to get rid of a lot of the shit bags on our teams. Serie C players in Moldova were out playing us at times, lol.
     
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  18. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    ?
    But then the cushion went down to only 8 Goals with 45 Minutes left to play which is why Norway decided to play good because they were afraid of Italy scoring 8 Goals to overturn the Table. Is this what you are writing? There was absolutely never a fear of Italy winning the group the moment Norway scored their 2nd goal last Thursday against Estonia.

    Or could it be that:

    - 1H. Italy good. Norway shit. Italy fail to tack on Goals

    - 2H. Italy shit. Norway good. Norway score off of Italian gifting them goals.
     
  19. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    So if Italy fails to make a third straight World Cup tournament , will the FIGC and the Serie A go back to their same old routine as they did in 2018 & 2022?

    Or rather will anything change going forward?
     
  20. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    I've already explained what I saw 5 times. Norway took it easy on us. Its really that simple. I know you don't believe it but that's fine, I know what I saw.
     
  21. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    No. Italy played better than Norway. Just like Norway played better than Italy at the break.
     
  22. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Cameroon and Nigeria, Africa's most populous nation, fail to qualify.

    Nigeria have been a mess since their qualifiers began.
     
  23. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Verratti is a disgrace. 33 years old should be starting at a big club.
    Napoleon c0cksucker
     
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  24. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    16 years no qualification. Impossible

    Poor caressa and bergomi. They bored during summer.
     
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  25. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    Agree to disagree AGomes.

    And It's not impossible to never to qualify when your not a good team.
     

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