Senior Team Discussion

Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by Vieri's Left Foot, Dec 3, 2023.

  1. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    No to Acerbi. They stay the course.
     
  2. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    Of course stay the course. Even Gattuso said the same. So have fun when we continue leaking goals.
     
  3. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Yeah, Acerbi is the solution...

    No. All I'm writing is that Bastoni bad pass was an abberation. I'm in a grumpy mood. So what? Made worse cause I'm out and they have Christmas music playing.
     
  4. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member+

    Frosinone
    Mar 29, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Alfredo Pedullà has said it best in my opinion...the most humiliating thing about this result is that there is no limit to the shame, there is no rock bottom.

    Everyone has resigned themselves to the fact that nothing will change whether we qualify or not

    it's even more sad that when you realize this is what the world wants. They want Italy to be a laughing stock. And we have no way to prevent it from happening because our federation simply doesn't care that we embarrass ourselves time and time again, and remain one of the most disliked national teams at the same time.
     
  5. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    England literally just went back to back Euros finals and quarters in the World Cup. Norway literally just stood there let Italy do anything they wanted in the first half bc they already knew the tie was over. And we only put 1 goal through. Pathetic. Both teams are miles ahead of us.
     
  6. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  7. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    #11682 AGomes, Nov 16, 2025
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2025
    Yeah but can they do it on a July mid-day match in Orlando?

    I've already given them their flowers. I'm not glazing them, sorry.
     
  8. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    Go watch Bastoni when Israel put 4 through us.

    Everyone loves to clown on me about Acerbi, Berrardi, Grifo, Chiesa, Verratti, whomever else BUT IF WE CONTINUE WITH THESE PLAYERS WE WILL GET HUMILIATED LIKE WE DID IN THE EUROS.

    The definition of insanity as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
     
  9. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    When you have a federation president who is on record of saying “I’m not responsible for the technical results.” you have to be in awe of the incompetence. No one has the balls to take responsibility for a national program that has been consistently failing cycle after cycle.
     
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  10. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    We are a laughing stock just like our league is. People literally never mention that we won the Euros just make fun of us for missing all these World Cups saying we are shit. Inter went to 2 CL Finals in 3 years but bc they lost the worst historically, the trend continues.
     
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  11. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    I'm not glazing them either when I say they are better than us, that is the point. WE ARE NOT A TOP TIER TEAM ANYMORE.
     
  12. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    So Italy made a change in the 2nd Leg versus Sweden in the 2017 Playoff after everybody and their mother was begging for Jorginho to make his Italy debut. He did and the Azzurri were held to a 0-0.

    If Grifo, Verratti, were out there today does that stop Bastoni doing what he does?

    I'll grant you Kayode. I would have liked to see him play both of these matches to get his feet wet for March. But aside from Kayode for DiLo and maybe Grifo or Chiesa for Politano, I don't see other players coming in make a difference.
     
  13. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    Pepe at 40 dominated in the Euros. If I here bout certain ages of players restricting them from being on this B TIER TEAM, I will lose it.
     
  14. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    I can write the same about the 2nd Half. How many times did I write during the PBP that Italy were ball-watching?
     
  15. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    KEAN > PIO
    RICCI > LOCATELLI
    TONALI > FRATTESI
    CALAFIORI > DIMARCO
    KAYODE > DI LORENZO
    SCALVINI > MANCINI
    CHIESA > POLITANO

    That is before dealing with Bastoni, who honestly I dunno wtf to do but I'd get Acerbi and Ahanor on this sinking defensive ship of a team immediately.
     
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  16. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Sold.

    But not the Acerbi part. Anahor? Come on. Going to thrust the ********ing kid into a pressure cooker before the ink is dry on his citizenship.
     
  17. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    If you can't see that Italy were still trying in the 2nd half while Norway didn't try in the first, I dunno what else to say. Even the damn commentator pointed it out. When you are up by 9 goals, it can be human nature to go easy at times.
     
  18. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    #11693 AGomes, Nov 16, 2025
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2025
    So what made them try when 45 Minutes were elapsed and they were even closer to the WC than they were in the 1st Half?

    It was a Game of 2 Halves in its truest sense. Just that in the 1H, Italy dominated Norway but didn't gift Italy goals. In the 2H, Norway dominated Italy but difference was Italy gifted Norway.
     
  19. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    Clearly the coach told them something at half bc right at the start of the 2nd half they were pressing us hard when we were trying to play out from the back. They did not do that once in the 1st half. And right in the first 5 mins Sorloth had 2 great chances when they didn't produce 1 in the entire 1H bc they were just standing there not giving a shit they were up by 9 goals.
     
  20. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    Once again. The definition of insanity as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. And I am mainly referring to our defense. So yes, I would change the entire damn back line bc they have proven they leak goals for fun which they don't do for club.
     
  21. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    As long as Italy avoids facing Sweden and North Macedonia again,they may have a chance.
     
  22. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    I actually want Sweden, lol, they are the worst team of the bunch. And it's funny seeing Italians scared of North Macedonia when we last played them, we destroyed them 5-2. But honestly, when a team like Israel can score 4 goals on us, I would be scared of anyone.
     
  23. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Didn't they take 4 of 6 Points versus North Macedonia in Euro Qualifiers? I mean what? North Macedonia is the team to want. Sweden to be avoided only because of their strike pair but give me North Macedonia all day.

    Changing the entire back line will signal panic and backfire spectacularly. I'm already on board with Kayode for DiLo and Richy for Dimarco.
     
  24. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    The truth of the matter is if Pio scores on one of those 2 headers, if Dimarco hits it clean, or if Locatelli puts his shot on goal with any semblance of power instead of placing it to the the GK's waiting arms, we aren't having this convo. Let these ********ing idiots stew on this for 4 Months and right a wrong in March.
     
  25. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    And enough about Verratti. If he was a serious footballer he would have gotten himself out of his lofty contract with the Qatari's and got himself playing in a top 4 league.

    He was by far the best player in the ill-fated match against Macedonia and it still wasn’t enough.
     

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