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Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by Vieri's Left Foot, Dec 3, 2023.

  1. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018

    Hopefully Berardi comes back into the fold just keep Iaquinta and his family away !
     
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  2. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Gattuso knows Bonucci from the year Leo went to Milan , became captain and Rino was their coach.

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    Not sure what Cesare Prandelli will do.

    His title will be a director's role, supervising all Italy’s national teams – from the youth selections to the first team but I don't see how that will help Italy from September to November's qualifying matches.
     
  3. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    #9128 TorontoCalabria, Jun 15, 2025
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2025
    Euro 2012 and World Cup 2006 shaking hands. What a strange Ai photo they used.
     
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  4. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy


    Who knows if it’s true. But Napoli are interested
     
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  5. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
  6. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    WTF...we are doomed. Modric linked to AC Milan. Dzeko to Fiorentina. Pedro renewing with Lazio. Serie A is fcked. Are our conazionali flat out stupid? All this evidence that it's a young man's game, and they continue to invest in players that should be retired?

    I'm not sure what it is going to take for change to happen.
     
  7. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Strange indeed.
     
  8. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy

    Not sure how true it is but I read Iaquinta was finally acquitted for any wrong doing.
     
  9. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Why Berardi, honestly?
     
  10. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I'd like to see Domenico Berardi but he is now 31.

    I saw that he only scored 6 goals in Serie B and then I read that he had to repair a torn Achilles tendon and began rehabilitation only in October 2024.

    At that poinit he already missed seven games so that may be why he didn't score that many.
     
  11. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Immobile also looking to come back to Serie A with Milan possibly interested.
     
  12. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    Because he's calabrese is why I was saying it but I won't be shocked to see him play himself back into the team by September with Sassuolo back in Serie A. We will see if Gatusso sticks with the 352 or goes 433.
     
  13. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    He missed the early part of the season but he had 13 assists in 29 games. He was toying with Serie B I think he wasn't scoring because it was easier for him to put it on a plate for his teammates.
     
  14. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Some gossip coming out of the FIGC camp. Gravina was the one who was in favour of bringing back Mancini but Buffon was not. Buffon threatened to quit if Mancini was brought back.
     
  15. johnny6

    johnny6 Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2011
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Buffon Is a buffoon, what else is new. Now we're stuck with a clueless manager that's only good at raging, I'm sure things will end well.
     
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  16. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Any coach coming in is going to struggle right now. I’m more inclined to give Gattuso a chance than Mancini. The last thing we need right now is another philosopher.
     
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  17. Al Gabiru

    Al Gabiru Member

    Jan 28, 2020
    #9142 Al Gabiru, Jun 16, 2025
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    Gattuso is coming off a poor coaching record. He's only won one title (2019-20 Coppa Italia with Napoli). Last season, the team Gattuso managed (Hajduk Split) finished third in the Croatian league. I think that when people say that Gattuso has no experience (he's been in charge for 12 years), it's a polite way of saying that he hasn't done a good job yet.

    Italy has coaches with great CVs (Inzaghi, Conte etc). Even if they weren't available, they could try a foreign coach, like Brazil did with Ancelotti.

    I interpret the signing of Gattuso in two ways:

    The optimistic view is that the federation has handed over the reins of the national team to the last world champions (2006). A mixture of honouring their history in the national team and trying to please the public with names respected by the fans.

    The pessimistic view is that the Italian national team is in the hands of Fifa Agents and gamblers. The Italian national team would be used as a springboard for selling players and controversial results (former italian players has already been involved with the betting mafia, for example. Calciopoli, Totonero etc). Since the generation isn't good, they wouldn't care about the result. It's a terrible suspicion, but we know that this kind of thing happens.

    Anyway, Italy's generation is bad since 2006 and they should revamp their youth system.
     
  18. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member+

    Club: Frosinone
    Mar 29, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #9143 Azzurrifan87, Jun 16, 2025
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2025
    I Know there is a divide here, but I’m in favor of Rino. I’m of the opinion we need less approach about how we’re going to play, and more work on understanding why you wear the Jersey of all jerseys. When you wear the Azzurri jersey you must bleed what is necessary to succeed. You must be willing to lose a limb. The efforts of those against 2024 Switzerland and 2025 Norway spat in the face of those who fought against Brazil 82, Spain 94, Netherlands 2000, South Korea 2002, and Germany 2006. Those men were prepared to die. If they were going to lose, they would make sure they lost in the middle of the field with the world knowing what was given, which was everything.

    we need to learn to prepare to die again. Screw the “this is how we play” crap. We must die for points and I hope Rino makes this apparent.
     
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  19. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    #9144 TorontoCalabria, Jun 16, 2025
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2025
    my take on Gatusso is that he will be replaced by September 2026 but his job is not to be a great coach but to restore dignity to the team and qualify. When we ask will he be good enough to beat top sides or have a good showing at the world cup? Probably no but the sides infront of us at the moment don't take a genius to beat. Even Norway at home is beatable with simple tactics and the strongest 11 possible.

    If we need the playoff and we likely will again it will not be genius tactics that get us through those games. They will be two games where if healthy and with some good fortune after the Serie A season we will likely have the better team on paper. Gatusso's job is just to not lose it really.

    Can Gatusso win two games where he has the better players? Yes. Will the pressure be a lot and will having all these legends present help? Possibly. Certainly having a positive group feeling will help that moment.

    So again we have to really look at it as Gatusso is being brought in for two games. Everything after that is just a bonus. My only complaint is that I think with Gatusso we are probably kissing the goal difference away even if he improves the defence I think a Pioli or Palladino would have given us a shot at making up the goal difference. Essentially we are accepting the playoff if Norway do not slip up.
     
  20. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    What happened?
     
  21. Leo Bartoni

    Leo Bartoni Member

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Dec 22, 2024
    Don't believe everything you hear from journo's or otherwise that get a kick out of stirring up nonsense.
     
  22. Leo Bartoni

    Leo Bartoni Member

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Dec 22, 2024
    Exactly. You have the tools and they've been playing without desire or grinta. That won't continue.
     
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  23. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Other than the Inter vs. Juventus rivalry, what exactly does Buffon have against Mancini?
     
  24. Leo Bartoni

    Leo Bartoni Member

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Dec 22, 2024
    Probably that he left you high and dry and bailed on your team the first time around. Perhaps like anyone who might value loyalty and reasonable timing.
     
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  25. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    bingo. a combination of him leaving us high and dry and reaching for bottom of the barrel stranieri. Thank you for Euro 2020 but we are moving forward.

    side note.. i see you are a River Plate fan. I'll be at the Inter vs River Plate Club World Cup match in Seattle next Wed!
     
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