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Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by Vieri's Left Foot, Dec 3, 2023.

  1. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    None of our forwards would get any playing time at Liverpool. Chiesa is easily better than any of the wingers at Milan not named Pulsic.
     
  2. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    Osolini CLUTCH!
     
  3. johnny6

    johnny6 Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2011
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Udinese zero Italians starting, I hope they get destroyed.
     
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  4. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    besides the Italian thing it's great to see Serie A clubs like Atalanta Bologna Fiorentina modernize and even mid table clubs like Monza and now Como among others bring exciting projects to the league. When Udinese was constantly a top 6 club they really were a blight on the leagues progress. I don't mind them and the way they do things as lower mid table club they still bring some competitiveness to the league but their model just screams dire early/mid 2010s dark era of italian football.
     
  5. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    All the conditions exist for Chiesa to succeed at Liverpool. They play a style of football that suits him (way more than Juve last year and more than the Italian national team currently.) Salah is on his way out, and in theory he’s the programmed replacement. (Not easy shoes to fill).

    Injuries aside, if he’s not training well, or the level is too high and he’s homesick etc etc, then Italian fans need to stop thinking he’s this world class phenomenon.
     
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  6. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    100% agree but this is where I blame his management that overpriced him for Juve. Premier League clubs have the money to derail a quality player. He is not what he was and should have never been advised to go to a team that has so many options.

    He looked good when he did play. He quickly got an assist and created plenty of chances.
    Anyway I guess let's see what comes out. It's reported he is going to sit down with Slot to discuss his future.

    But yes he is not anywhere near world class for me. He is simply a very good 27 year old in his prime that never reached his ceiling because of injury. The reality is when you leave Juve and they don't really rate you it's impossible to really make a lateral move let alone go higher. It's like he was convinced by his agents Liverpool or Barca was going to be a promotion and Roma was beneath him. Not unlike Dybala Roma was probably the kind of club he would have been suited to.
     
  7. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    The 2 brothas are better at the current time.
     
  8. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Daniel Maldini looks good today but he already ate two goals. He needs to be sharper
     
  9. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Orsolini has been playing a lot better after a rough start to the season

     
  10. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    Terracianno starting ahead of Emerson and Calabria at RB is interesting.
    I forgot that he is ambidextrix.
     
  11. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    Old Man Morata can't head the ball if his life depended on it. Camarda watches while he rots on the bench. So sad.
     
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  12. Vieri's Left Foot

    Roma
    Italy
    Jun 8, 2022
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I agree that there's no reason to pick Chiesa, today, but people on the board talking about he's finished or past it are being ridiculous. We all have seen what he's capable of, and he was very good for Italy when they were on shakey ground with the Euro qualification in doubt. Chiesa came out ripping goals against North Macedonia, which doesn't sound like much in hindsight, but he really set a tone and quelled the palpable sense of dread going into that match.

    I believe in the guy. I hope he finds a better situation next year, because Italy is a better team if he's on the squad come tournament time.
     
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  13. Vieri's Left Foot

    Roma
    Italy
    Jun 8, 2022
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Anybody catch the Newcastle/Arsenal match, today? Tonali came on as a sub, which hasn't been the case for most of the season. I'm curious how he did.
     
  14. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    #5589 AGomes, Nov 2, 2024
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2024

    Who says they couldn't co-exist?
     
  15. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    #5590 AGomes, Nov 2, 2024
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2024
    No decline. But too many wasted months as written earlier.

    Typical EPL and Northern European football mentality. Lack of fitness? Used to call the EPL the huff and puff league. All about running 100 KPH, getting stuck in, curry and a fight? Chiesa's characteristics of high intensity suit the EPL just fine or and league for that matter. By all means, Slot to field his best team as he sees fit, but the vagueness about his situation is wierd. Listed as a "knock" but Slot only speaks of fitness. Which is it? Bald idiot.
     
  16. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    #5591 AGomes, Nov 2, 2024
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2024
    Chiesa's best is better than Pulisic's best. To boot Chiesa is more exciting. But this is not a comparison between the the two despite what I just wrote.

    Both players have missed an enormous amount of time due to injury or lack of faith. Pulisic was down before and now is reaping rewards for time put in -- good for him. Now Chiesa is in the dumps. This won't last forever, no way.
     
  17. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    I didn't watch any football today but not surprised Tonali didn't start as he played 90 Minutes midweek in the league cup.
     
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  18. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    The difference in level between the respective clubs aside, I'd rather live in Lake Como over Liverpool.
     
  19. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    Not sure but he did play the entire game for them against Chelsea a few days ago as a regista for the first time and lots of people said he was the man of the match.
     
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  20. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    Its only 1 guy in here dissing on Chiesa so I wouldn't even bother listening. Chiesa is a star and was are only dangerous attacker in the Euros. If Chiesa was on his Milan team, he would instantly start, that is what is funny about it all. :D
     
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  21. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Is Giovanni Fabbian's Minutes down this season?
     
  22. Alex101

    Alex101 Member

    Mar 15, 2017
  23. Gino22

    Gino22 Member

    Juventus
    Italy
    Apr 14, 2023
    Well done to Inter if this is their plan, AC Milan can focus on loading up with foreign hacks like Loftus Cheek
     
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  24. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Interesting news out of Serie B; Di Marzio is speculating that the FIGC might try to poach back Cristian Shpendi from the Albanians. Shpendi is born and raised in Italy. He said at the beginning of the season he would be open to receiving an offer for joining the Italian U21s. He’s currently leading Serie B scoring with 6 goals.
     
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  25. Vieri's Left Foot

    Roma
    Italy
    Jun 8, 2022
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
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