Senate subcommittee: Annan blocking oil-for-food investigation

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by dfb547490, Nov 16, 2004.

  1. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/10/politics/10oil.html?oref=login

    Of course he's going to block investigations, his son is one of hte people being investigated.

    These are the clowns we're supposed to let run our foreign policy?
     
  2. IntheNet

    IntheNet New Member

    Nov 5, 2002
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    Let's just designate Koffi Anan a terrorist and be done with it! I'm tired of this U.N. chairman being a thorn in the side of diplomacy... put him in a cell at Gitmo and problem is solved!
     
  3. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    What crack are you on? The UN running our foreign policy? God its sad to see a college student's brain be able to be twisted by the most simpleminded lies of america's ruling elite.

    The UN is not there to run our foreign policy.

    They're a organization trying to encourage countries not kill each other so much. they are a world body and thus have the flaws of each individual nation inside it. They are not and could never be perfect.

    Corrupt? Some of them, surely. Paying people to not kill each other is a timeless tactic.
     
  4. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan PLANITARCHIS' BANE

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    If folks outside the gov't are suffering your slings and arrows for blocking investigations, what kind of venom must you possess for those within our system who block investigations?

    I want all those, anywhere, at any time, who block any investigation hung.

    Let's kill everyone, all the time.
     
  5. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
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    OK, so you're saying that we don't need a Security Council mandate to carry out any kind of military operation that we perceieve to be on our own self-defense (whether or not it is is a different debate, but we perceive it to be)? Great, then we're in agreement.
     
  6. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    Well, I'm just trying to remember which UN officials ordered us to invade Grenada, Panama, send armed exiles to Cuba, blockade Cuba, arm fascists in the caribbean and south america, threaten the USSR and China with nuclear missles, arm islamic fundamentalists in afghanistan, fight commies in Vietnam, etc

    Cuz I think the UN has just about the right amount of sway over our national self-interest and foreign policy decisions, don't you?
     
  7. zverskiy yobar

    zverskiy yobar BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Mar 10, 2002
    yes you are right an uneleceted body representing foreign dictators should have a say in our foriegn plolicy :rolleyes:
     
  8. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 10, 2000
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    And they'd STILL do a better job than the clowns that actually are running our foreign policy.
     
  9. dj43

    dj43 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Nor Cal
    This is just the latest revelation in a long list of UN inefficiencies. Clinton was equally frustrated by their lack of action.

    However, this one is particularly grievous since the US, and the world, was relying on the UN to enforce it's resolutions. What was actually happening was that while weapons inspectors were being stalled and hauled all around Iraq at the whim of Saddam, numerous other countries and Saddam, along with significant UN officials, were putting millions in their pockets. All the while Annan was asking the world to wait a little longer while his son, and others, were going to the bank.
     
  10. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    let me guess - you're practicing to be Saddam Hussain's speechwriter?

    Was Iraq supposed to listen to these unelected foreign dictators imposing unfair arms inspections procedures, or not?

    OK, this all might be a bit cryptic to some people who rode the short bus, so I'll write this as slowly as you can read...

    Iraq was supposed to listen to the demands of a body of unelected foreign dictators.

    America does not have to listen to the demands of a body of unelected foreign dictators.

    Why? Choose one of the following...

    a) our country is morally superior to the UN and we are thus exempt from its rules, or at least any we don't particularly like.

    b) America has a big, big army and we like to use it, so what are you gonna do about it, huh punk?
     
  11. dj43

    dj43 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Nor Cal
    Yes!!
     
  12. dj43

    dj43 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Nor Cal
    Yes, because that was the agreement Saddam Hussein signed at the end of the Gulf War in '92.
     
  13. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    Er, should I suggest that you go back and read my whole post slowly, or will you not get it this time either?
     
  14. dj43

    dj43 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Nor Cal
    I read your entire post and this was the only line pertinent to the discussion.

    This is about Saddam Hussein complying with conditions set upon him as a result of his invasion of a sovereign nation. He received sanctions and agreed to letting UN inspectors in as PART of that agreement. He didn't comply and now we are finding out a major reason why the UN didn't enforce the restrictions upon which all parties agreed. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
     
  15. CosmosKramer

    CosmosKramer Member

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    My personal handy dandy, Neo-Con/Homeland Security Induced Skepticism Alert Meter is at level orange.

    Maybe it's because Judith Miller (all her articles should now come with the warning, much googling required) is covering the story, or the combo of Henry Hyde, the French and the UN, perhaps just my recent insomnia, but this story has progressed - to become now this - ready for mass consumption, your next war raison du jour ..

    http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/20658.htm

    http://pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/middleeastreports/s_273762.html

    ...and with this will come intense pressure on Annan. A Rovian-like build-up to an attack on the UN and the French (PNB anyway) is in the works.
     
  16. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan PLANITARCHIS' BANE

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    Judith Miller is the worst kind of American, and among the worst kinds of humans. She doesn't even actually get her hands dirty; she dirties the water in which others wash, and from which others drink.

    The best, most perfect refutation of her, in toto, is right here.

    In still having a voice above and beyond her own scream, the outlets offering that are wholly discredited. Without. Exception.
     
  17. sardus_pater

    sardus_pater Member

    Mar 21, 2004
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    http://www.icc-cpi.int/home.html&l=en

    The rest of the world is still waiting.

     

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