Semi-Official 2017 San Jose Earthquakes Roster Thread

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  1. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With Wondo and Dawkins currently listed as DPs, that means the Quakes are using 2017 TAM on three players...

    2017 Targeted Allocation Money Players

    Hoesen, Danny San Jose Earthquakes
    Hyka, Jahmir San Jose Earthquakes
    Jungwirth, Florian San Jose Earthquakes


    True, they won't release player salary info, so that will never make it to their roster page, that info will continue to come from the player's union...
     
  2. KMJvet

    KMJvet Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 26, 2001
    Quake Country
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seismothusiast also tracks rights, place in the allocation order, staff, and lots of other things not included there.
     
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  3. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Stejskal: Tutorial on new MLS roster info

     
  4. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    Anyone know the deal on Mfeka? Was he offered a contract and turned it down? Did the Quakes change their mind about signing him? He's not listed on any roster and wasn't mentioned on loans to Reno. I thought a reporter published a story that he would join the team.
     
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  5. KMJvet

    KMJvet Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 26, 2001
    Quake Country
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Robert Jonas said Mfeka was physically present at the match vs the Impact. But RJ doesn't know why not yet signed...may issue with no Intl slot.
     
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  6. Seismothusiast

    Seismothusiast Member+

    Jul 14, 2006
    Modesto
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Welcome Matt Bersano. I'm also updating from all of the resources xbhaskarx provided.
    ____________________
    Salary Budget Roster
    1. David Bingham, #1 (GK) {10/19/89} [$152.8K]
    2. Victor Bernardez # 5 (D) (Honduras, Green Card) {5/24/82} [$251.6K]
    3. Shaun Francis # 20 (D) (Jamaica, Green Card) {10/2/86} [$103.3K]
    4. Andres Imperiale # 32 (D) (Argentina, INT) {7/8/86} [$87.5K]
    5. Harold Cummings # 31 (D) (Panama, INT) {3/1/92} [$??$K]
    6. Marvell Wynne # 4 (D) {5/8/86} [$224.4K]
    7. Kofie Sarkodie # 2 (D) {3/22/91} [$??K]
    8. Cordell Cato #7 (D/M) (T & T, Green Card Holder) {7/15/92} [$114.2K]
    9. Florian Jungwirth, #23 (D/M) (Germany, INT) {1/27/89} [$???K]
    10. Fatai Alashe #27 (M) {10/21/93} [$90.5K]
    11. Anibal Godoy #30 (M) (Panama, INT}{2/10/90} [$242.3K]
    12. Darwin Ceren # 17 (M) (El Salvador, Green Card?) {12/31/89} [$174.4K]
    13. Shea Salinas #6 (M) {6/24/86} [$166.5K*]
    14. Jamir Hyka #10 (M) (Albania, INT) {3/8/88} [$???K]
    15. Simon Dawkins #49 (M/F) {12/1/87} (Jamaica, INT) [$800K]
    16. Marcos Urena #21 (M) (Costa Rica, INT) {3/5/90} [$???K]
    17. Chris Wondolowski #8 (F) {1/28/83} [$700?*]
    18. Quincy Amarikwa # 25 (F) {10/29/87}[$260.7k]
    19. Danny Hoesen #9 (F) (Netherlands, INT) {1/15/91} [$???K]
    20. [Empty]

    * Indicates a known guaranteed contract.​

    Supplemental Roster (Off-Budget-min $65K)

    21. Andrew Tarbell (G) #28 {10/7/93} [Generation Adidas - $84]
    22. Marc Pelosi # 33 (M) {6/17/94) [84.5K]
    23. Matheus Silva (F) #38 (Brazil, INT) {12/6/96} [$52.5K]
    24. Jackson Yueill (M) #14 {3/19/97} [Generation Adidas - $??]​
    Reserve Roster (Off-Budget-in $50K, under 25)

    25. Kip Colvey # 18 (D) {3/15/94} [$51.5K]
    26. Matt Bersano # ?? (G) {9/10/92} [$??]
    27. [Empty]
    28. [Empty]
    Homegrown Players (Additional Reserves Slots)
    29. Tommy Tompson (M/F) #22 {8/15/95} [$??K - Homegrown Player]
    30. Nick Lima (D) #24 {11/17/94} [$???-Homegrown Player]​

    Players On Loan

    Leandro Barrera (M) (Argentine) {2/22/91} [$75K]

    CURRENT SALARY TOTAL for 2016 is was approximately $4,107,000, with is a $3,845,000. Note: Some player's salaries were likely bought down this year with allocation money, and this cost is not represented in the figure above. The 2016 figures above were used to calculate our cap, rounding up to the nearest thousand from the union's released salaries from May 2016. Part of Wondo's salary (TAM) has been bough down and he has since signed a new multi-year contract. Urena's, Hyka, Jungwirth & Hoesen signing also used TAM.

    Allocations, Slots, Rights, & Trades
    Allocations
    ***We received allocation money for missing the playoffs.***

    Trades, waivers, losses
    ---* STEWART waived- 12/15/16
    ---* MEREDITH, GOODSON, BARRETT, GOITOM, INNOCENT, LENHARDT, & SHERROD released, PELOSI
    & THOMPSON released with the intent to renegotiate - 12/2/16
    ---* PEREZ GARCIA to Orlando for Ceren and cap relief - 8/3/16
    ---* JAHN to Columbus for Targeted Allocation Money - 7/20/16
    ---* SARKODIE from Hou for Targeted allocation Money - 4/1/16
    ---* KOVAL waived - 2/27/16
    ---* Targeted allocation money and an INT slot to Rapids for general allocation money - 2/25/16.

    Slots
    ---* DP's - Simon Dawkins occupies a DP slot, so two slots are open. Wondolowski's salary has been bought down with targeted allocation money.
    ---* We currently have no open INT slots. We have eight slots, and all eight of those slots are occupied (Godoy, Dawkins, Imperiale, Cummings, Urena, Hyka, Hoesen & Jungwirth=INT).

    Rights
    ---* 3rd on the allocation list.
    ---* All of our 2018 Superdraft picks.
    ---* All of our 2018 Waiver Draft and Re-Entry Draft picks.
    ---* Lottery eligible for the 2017 season.
    ---* We hold Olmes Garcia's MLS rights.
    ---* Still hold Yannick Djalo's MLS rights.
    ---* Still hold Jaime Alas' MLS rights.
    ---* We hold the right to Bryan Jordan, acquired in the re-entry draft on 12/14/12.
    ---* We hold the rights to these unsigned MLS draftees: Patrick Hodan through 2017.
    ---* We hold the rights to these unsigned MLS draftees: Lindo Mfeka, Christian Thierjung & Auden Schilder through 2018.​

    Staff
    * Dave Kaval (President)
    * Jared Shawlee (Chief Operating Officer)
    * Jesse Fioranelli (General Manager)
    * Dominic Kinnear (Head Coach)
    * Steve Ralson (Assistant Coach)
    * John Spencer (Assistant Coach)
    * Tim Hanley (Assistant Coach)
    * Ron Shinault (Head Trainer)
    * Sean Mearns (Team Administrator)
    * Andy Dunbar (Equipment Manager)
    * Greg Tella (Fitness Coach)
    * Derek Lawrence (Assistant Athletic Trainer)
    * Chris Leitch (Technical Director )​


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  7. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Armchair Analyst: Stop calling it a "salary cap," it's a "salary budget"

    Now, not every team uses every available roster slot, but as you can see via our roster page here, most are filled up. You can also click through this handy dandy interactive graphic made by Steve Fenn, who you should go follow on Twitter:

    [​IMG]

    The obvious truth is that the vast majority of teams use the vast majority of slots they're given, and most of the ones that are unfilled now will get filled in the next couple of months.

    So if you're hypothetical Team X, and you want to carry a full, 30-man roster, but don't want to exceed the salary cap by a single penny (thus no DP spending), what is your total possible outlay? Don't say "It's $3.845 million because that's the salary cap", since it should be pretty clear by now that's just not the case.

    Given what we know (and a little of what we suspect), here's what we're looking at for the total, non-DP salary budget for 2017:

    • Salary Cap: $3,845,000
    • Supplemental Roster: $65,000 x 4 = $260,000
    • Reserve Roster: $53,000 x 6 = $318,000
    • Homegrown subsidy: $125,000
    • TAM: $1,200,000
    • GAM: $200,000
    Total baseline MLS salary budget per team, 2017: $5,948,000.
     
  8. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bump.
    We really should sticky this thread, as there is just so much important information on it, and some of us refer to it fairly often.

    - Mark
     
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  10. Seismothusiast

    Seismothusiast Member+

    Jul 14, 2006
    Modesto
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Welcome Lindo Mfeka! He's not listed on that more comprehensive roster site on mlssoccer.com that xbhaskarx posted yet. Sjearthquakes does not list him as international, so I'm adding him as a reserve off-budget slot for not and will update as we find out more.
    ____________________
    Salary Budget Roster
    1. David Bingham, #1 (GK) {10/19/89} [$152.8K]
    2. Victor Bernardez # 5 (D) (Honduras, Green Card) {5/24/82} [$251.6K]
    3. Shaun Francis # 20 (D) (Jamaica, Green Card) {10/2/86} [$103.3K]
    4. Andres Imperiale # 32 (D) (Argentina, INT) {7/8/86} [$87.5K]
    5. Harold Cummings # 31 (D) (Panama, INT) {3/1/92} [$??$K]
    6. Marvell Wynne # 4 (D) {5/8/86} [$224.4K]
    7. Kofie Sarkodie # 2 (D) {3/22/91} [$??K]
    8. Cordell Cato #7 (D/M) (T & T, Green Card Holder) {7/15/92} [$114.2K]
    9. Florian Jungwirth, #23 (D/M) (Germany, INT) {1/27/89} [$???K]
    10. Fatai Alashe #27 (M) {10/21/93} [$90.5K]
    11. Anibal Godoy #30 (M) (Panama, INT}{2/10/90} [$242.3K]
    12. Darwin Ceren # 17 (M) (El Salvador, Green Card?) {12/31/89} [$174.4K]
    13. Shea Salinas #6 (M) {6/24/86} [$166.5K*]
    14. Jamir Hyka #10 (M) (Albania, INT) {3/8/88} [$???K]
    15. Simon Dawkins #49 (M/F) {12/1/87} (Jamaica, INT) [$800K]
    16. Marcos Urena #21 (M) (Costa Rica, INT) {3/5/90} [$???K]
    17. Chris Wondolowski #8 (F) {1/28/83} [$700?*]
    18. Quincy Amarikwa # 25 (F) {10/29/87}[$260.7k]
    19. Danny Hoesen #9 (F) (Netherlands, INT) {1/15/91} [$???K]
    20. [Empty]

    * Indicates a known guaranteed contract.​

    Supplemental Roster (Off-Budget-min $65K)
    21. Andrew Tarbell (G) #28 {10/7/93} [Generation Adidas - $84]
    22. Marc Pelosi # 33 (M) {6/17/94) [84.5K]
    23. Matheus Silva (F) #38 (Brazil, INT) {12/6/96} [$52.5K]
    24. Jackson Yueill (M) #14 {3/19/97} [Generation Adidas - $??]
    Reserve Roster (Off-Budget-in $50K, under 25)
    25. Kip Colvey # 18 (D) {3/15/94} [$51.5K]
    26. Matt Bersano # 35 (G) {9/10/92} [$??]
    27. Lindo Mfeka #?? (M/F) (South Africa, Green Card?) {3/30/94} [$??]
    28. [Empty]
    Homegrown Players (Additional Reserves Slots)
    29. Tommy Tompson (M/F) #22 {8/15/95} [$??K - Homegrown Player]
    30. Nick Lima (D) #24 {11/17/94} [$???-Homegrown Player]​

    Players On Loan

    Leandro Barrera (M) (Argentine) {2/22/91} [$75K]

    CURRENT SALARY TOTAL for 2016 is was approximately $4,107,000, with is a $3,845,000. Note: Some player's salaries were likely bought down this year with allocation money, and this cost is not represented in the figure above. The 2016 figures above were used to calculate our cap, rounding up to the nearest thousand from the union's released salaries from May 2016. Part of Wondo's salary (TAM) has been bough down and he has since signed a new multi-year contract. Urena's, Hyka, Jungwirth & Hoesen signing also used TAM.

    Allocations, Slots, Rights, & Trades
    Allocations
    ***We received allocation money for missing the playoffs.***

    Trades, waivers, losses
    ---* STEWART waived- 12/15/16
    ---* MEREDITH, GOODSON, BARRETT, GOITOM, INNOCENT, LENHARDT, & SHERROD released, PELOSI
    & THOMPSON released with the intent to renegotiate - 12/2/16
    ---* PEREZ GARCIA to Orlando for Ceren and cap relief - 8/3/16
    ---* JAHN to Columbus for Targeted Allocation Money - 7/20/16
    ---* SARKODIE from Hou for Targeted allocation Money - 4/1/16
    ---* KOVAL waived - 2/27/16
    ---* Targeted allocation money and an INT slot to Rapids for general allocation money - 2/25/16.

    Slots
    ---* DP's - Simon Dawkins occupies a DP slot, so two slots are open. Wondolowski's salary has been bought down with targeted allocation money.
    ---* We currently have no open INT slots. We have eight slots, and all eight of those slots are occupied (Godoy, Dawkins, Imperiale, Cummings, Urena, Hyka, Hoesen & Jungwirth=INT).

    Rights
    ---* 3rd on the allocation list.
    ---* All of our 2018 Superdraft picks.
    ---* All of our 2018 Waiver Draft and Re-Entry Draft picks.
    ---* Lottery eligible for the 2017 season.
    ---* We hold Olmes Garcia's MLS rights.
    ---* Still hold Yannick Djalo's MLS rights.
    ---* Still hold Jaime Alas' MLS rights.
    ---* We hold the right to Bryan Jordan, acquired in the re-entry draft on 12/14/12.
    ---* We hold the rights to these unsigned MLS draftees: Patrick Hodan through 2017.
    ---* We hold the rights to these unsigned MLS draftees: Lindo Mfeka, Christian Thierjung & Auden Schilder through 2018.​

    Staff
    * Dave Kaval (President)
    * Jared Shawlee (Chief Operating Officer)
    * Jesse Fioranelli (General Manager)
    * Dominic Kinnear (Head Coach)
    * Steve Ralson (Assistant Coach)
    * John Spencer (Assistant Coach)
    * Tim Hanley (Assistant Coach)
    * Ron Shinault (Head Trainer)
    * Sean Mearns (Team Administrator)
    * Andy Dunbar (Equipment Manager)
    * Greg Tella (Fitness Coach)
    * Derek Lawrence (Assistant Athletic Trainer)
    * Chris Leitch (Technical Director )​


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  11. KMJvet

    KMJvet Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 26, 2001
    Quake Country
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My guess is that might well be the reason for the delay....waiting on a green card or citizenship.
     
  12. Seismothusiast

    Seismothusiast Member+

    Jul 14, 2006
    Modesto
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    That would make a ton of sense. I would wager you are correct.
     
  13. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
  15. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Salaries are base and guaranteed
    Alashe Fatai M $ 98,175.00 $ 114,425.00
    Amarikwa Quincy F $ 256,500.00 $ 270,166.67
    Barrera Leandro F $ 100,000.00 $ 100,000.00
    Bernardez Victor D $ 225,000.00 $ 266,600.00
    Bersano Matt GK $ 65,004.00 $ 65,004.00 2017
    Bingham David GK $ 190,000.00 $ 197,750.00
    Cato Cordell M $ 137,000.00 $ 138,666.67
    Ceren Darwin M $ 200,000.00 $ 249,375.00
    Colvey Kip D $ 54,075.00 $ 54,075.00
    Cummings Harold D $ 249,996.00 $ 300,662.67
    Dawkins Simon M $ 800,000.00 $ 800,000.00
    Francis Shaun D $ 115,000.00 $ 123,333.33
    Godoy Anibal M $ 229,992.00 $ 256,242.00
    Hoesen Danny F $ 425,004.00 $ 503,129.00
    Hyka Jahmir M $ 470,004.00 $ 520,004.00
    Imperiale Andres D $ 105,000.00 $ 107,500.00
    Jungwirth Florian D-M $ 450,000.00 $ 516,667.07
    Lima Nick D $ 80,004.00 $ 86,208.03
    Mfeka Lindo M-F $ 53,004.00 $ 53,004.00
    Pelosi Marc M $ 65,004.00 $ 75,004.00
    Salinas Shea M $ 185,000.00 $ 185,000.00
    Sarkodie Kofi D $ 135,000.00 $ 140,000.00
    Silva Matheus M $ 65,000.00 $ 65,000.00
    Tarbell Andrew GK $ 80,000.00 $ 94,000.00
    Thompson Tommy M $ 150,000.00 $ 155,000.00
    Urena Marco F $ 275,004.00 $ 289,420.67
    Wondolowski Chris F $ 800,000.00 $ 800,000.00
    Wynne Marvell D $ 245,808.00 $ 257,058.00
    Yueill Jackson M $ 124,992.00 $ 175,992.00
     
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  16. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Some ugly numbers.

    Francis makes twice what Colvey makes.

    Bingham makes less than a quarter what Dawkins makes.

    Cummings is guaranteed $300k and will probably never play a minute for the team. He gets the team's Innocent Award, which comes with a Ferrari and a Swiss flat.
     
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  17. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    13th out of 22 teams... where did Kaval say we would be in salary once we built Avaya Stadium?

    [​IMG]
     
  18. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Top half? It's top half when you're standing on your head, so he didn't completely lie. After summer transfer it's possible the Quakes could move to upper half but we'll see.
     
  19. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Is this your aha moment?
     
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  20. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We spend about a third of what Toronto spends.
    We spend about forty percent of what NyckF*ck spends.
    A little better than half what Disney, the Lantern Kickers, and the filth spend.
    And 71% of what the evil cheating filth spend.
    About two thirds what evil shittle and the Forest Killers spend.

    Yeah, we're um, not even in the top half of MLS spenders, let alone in the top quarter.

    The worst part of this is that we could and should get more more bang for our bucks. The first thing we need to do is fire Kinnear and hire an entirely new coaching staff, because success starts with coaching.

    We've made some steps in the right direction this season with a new BTGM, and new Head of Scouting (a previously unfilled position), a USL affiliate, and we might be making better use of Burlingame (maybe). Still, those are efforts that will take two to three years minimum before they begin to pay off. Well, Jesse and Bruno might pay off much sooner.

    Really disappointed in our season. I expected us to suck, and we suck. It's still a terrible feeling to be such a crap team.

    Go Quakes!!
    Fire Dom!!
    2-3-3 and sucking so far ...

    - Mark
     
  21. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Atlanta $8.9 million

    San Jose $6.9 million

    Forget about teams that are consistently near the bottom in spending while being top of the table like Dallas and NYRB: If the Quakes spent $2 million more on player salaries, could they be as talented and entertaining as expansion team Atlanta United? I don't really think so. Even if we had the money, we're not adding Yamil Asad for $150k. We wouldn't know how to find a guy like that in Argentina. We'd get some aging lower division guy from Europe who would be totally mediocre in MLS. Josef Martinez and Hector Villalba make a combined $1.8 million, that's pretty comparable to Wondo and Dawkins ($1.6 million)...

    Houston is 21st at $5 million, but they have Cubo Torres, Quioto, Elis, Manotas (average age just under 23)...
     
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  22. Mr. Bandwagon

    Mr. Bandwagon Member

    Terremotos
    May 24, 2001
    the Barbary Coast
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm happy to see more investment in the middle of the roster, i.e. the TAM beneficiaries. That just seems like the most cost effective place to spend your money even if it's not as flashy as getting a superstar. Of course you better be starting or otherwise significantly contributing if you are making a half mil.
     
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  23. QuietType

    QuietType Member+

    Jun 6, 2009
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What aí notice immediately is Jesse's acquisitions paid a healthier salary, I don't know if that overpaying but sure is a sign of the types of players he's going after rather than Doyle's cheapskate way of running things.
     
  24. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looking at salaries around the league, we're not overpaying anyone except Francis who is overpaid because he should be in USL.

    In part it is about the money, but also, in equal measure at least, it's about how we spend the money that we have. Some teams are clearly much better at finding inexpensive *quality* players overseas. We really suck at that. But, guys like Hyka, Ureña, Jungworth and significant upgrades over Doyle signings. So in some ways, we're moving in the right direction. However, it is also true that even with good players, we can still suck if we are coached by Dominic.

    Bummer.

    I need whiskey.

    I'm going to be out of town and away from computers until next Thursday. Keep gnashing your teeth friends, but not too hard, because then you have to go to the dentist and that's not so fun.

    GO Quakes!!
    Fire Kinnear!!

    - Mark
     
  25. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Yeah, I've always felt it's better to have a bunch of "not quite DP's" who are good players than 1 or 2 superstar DP's and then a bunch of mediocre players. The TAM stuff makes that more possible, but the real bargain is HG's. If you can get a bunch of HG's who are contributing, that really opens it up for a bunch of these medium-high signing.
     
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