Discussion in '2016 Olympic Women's Soccer Tournament' started by Lusankya, Aug 4, 2012.
I don't think it was fixed and i doubt many do was it a awful call yes and the thing for the States si these thing do as a rule come back to bite you so the States could lsoe the gold the same way they won the semi final.
However if you read the game threads you can see the Americans complaining about the poor officiating during the game. Which leaves us two choices, either a) the game was called poorly or b) the game was called one sided and biased against Canada and the conspiracy was so huge that American fans were complaining about the officiating during the game and then the replays were changed after the game to match the complaints to make it appear 'fair'.
You've already proven your anti-US bias repeatedly in the past newsouth, but your points always are useful to show how silly your claims are. So far most American responses have said the officiating was horrible but not biased, the other side argues that it was biased for the US. And to be honest NOTHING is going to change the minds of the biased crowd because that is what they need to believe. Kinda neat that the crowd yelling that the ref was biased is doing it due to their own bias though.
The US men's team has often been the victim of calls that werent made but should have been. It would be odd if karma came back and bit the US for calls that are valid and were called. As much complaining that is happening over the idk and penalty calls, both are technically correct.
Like I said before, the ref was awful. The Canadian players showed lack of respect by crying about the ref when they still have a bronze game to play. We are Canadian, we don't cry about anything.
With that said, this ref should of punished McLeod long before this "controversial" call. I mean, McLeod was taking forever with the ball. I remember thinking about this in the first half. Good refs would never put themselves in a situation where they have to make such a big call for a repeat infraction near the end of the game.
I think someone should ask newsouth what he thinks about the robbery that took place between Brazil and Honduras on the men's side in the quarterfinals. If Brazil manages to win gold against Mexico on Saturday would that victory be tainted and hollow since not only did the referee give 2 red cards to Honduras, but also gave Brazil a penalty kick on a dive in the box. This is way worse than what occurred in the US game where Canada had ample time to come back and score another goal. Unfortunately for Honduras their first player was kicked out of the game after 2 successive yellow cards while they were leading 1-0. The second yellow was just a regular foul and the player did not deserve to be booked again. When Honduras came back to take a 2-1 lead with just 10 players, the referee decided to give the Brazilian attacker a penalty kick even though he was the one who stepped on the defenders foot and took a dive in the box. Where is newsouth's outrage over these gifts to Brazil? And before he says that he doesn't follow the men's game, that comment would be just as bogus as the rest of his comments since he's already admitted to following the Brazilian men's team. Also, if this ref was officiating the Canada / US game, Tancredi would've surely been ejected from the game with her very physical play. I thought that shoulder tackles at full speed (such as the one into O'Hara) were only allowed in American football with padding for protection.
As far is Sinclair is concerned, I tink Canadian fans should be very proud of her performance and character. Any player would have been frustrated after playing an absolutely spectacular game and having a call like that go against them. I still remember how supportive she was of Morgan on the Western New York Flash team, and truly believe that she helped develope her game as well. Sinclair is a class act in my book, and one 20 second interview will not change that!
While I agree with what you said, I would like to spin it around. Assuming the ref did warn her, both at half-time (AR on the Centers behalf) and with multiple hand waves, as the game gets more tense and time wasting becomes more critical, a good keeper wouldn't put herself in that position. Get rid of the ball, or if you have no distribution, drop it to your feet and kick it up field. Once it's on the ground, the 6 seconds goes away. She was WAY over 6 seconds 4 times in the second half BEFORE being called on #5 (there's video clips in the referee page showing this).
I was talking about this in the referee forum, any punishment still would have been a idk in the box. Some people say if she would have called it earlier she would have stopped and there wouldnt have been a penalty kick. True, in the 'what if' game that could be true. But she also would have had that same goal scoring opportunity against her early on, and the US could have scored then. Any of the 5 times I saw in the second half could have resulted in an idk. To me this is a sign the ref wasn't biased, she just didn't have a good game. I do feel bad for her, some people are making the referee a scapegoat over 1-2 plays, but she still had a bad game without those 2 plays.
Or there is the correct option (c) that you missed: there is a large, vociferous subset of American fans who will always whine that the refereeing is against them, however delusional that is in reality.
But that would have to mean the fouls that they were complaining about didn't happen. No matter how much you wish reality was otherwise...it isn't.
I agree with you. The goalie was taking way too long throughout the game. I didn't watch those clips but I watched the game live so I know how long she was taking. No need to "risk it" at the later stages of the game. If time wasting was the goal, she could of just placed the ball on the ground after the 6 seconds.
you must be talking about hope solo, who spends every game posing for the cameras. no way she gets rid of the ball in 6 secs. the ref made 2 BAD back - back calls, which got the
USA back in the game 3:3. it's that simple.
The goalie was awful. That corner kick... YIKES Horrendous.
Yeah, Canadians are blaming the ref but in reality, it wasn't just those 2 plays. There were tons of harsh tackles from both sides including a few that stopped some counter attacks that should of been yellow cards but none were given. Oh well, better luck next time.
American fans whining about fouls absolutely doesn't mean that they happened. This, in fact, is exactly the difference between delusion and reality that seems to be escaping you.
Dude I'm Canadian and I admit our goalie took years. I don't care about Hope Solo. The Canadian goalie should of been more careful so that she wouldn't be in that situation and yes, we all agree the ref was really bad.
All Canadians were going nuts over the refs decisions but when the game was over, most of us cooled off and became objective.
Agreed, too much was gotten away with on both sides. That has been my stance all along, the ref wasn't biased she just had a horrible game. Normally I would say she was in over her head, but for some reason that sounds odd to me this time. But if she wasnt in over her head she had the symptoms of it.
The next game between these two will be one to watch though.
However you are denying that they happened when they did. We can drag in video and gifs to prove you wrong, but we both know you are. Tancredi walking on a players head, not called. Happened. Tancredi throwing an elbow into Wambach, not called. Happened. Horrid tackles on both sides, not called. Happened. There is a long list...but your bias has you in denial. And everyone else can see that...
There won't be a response . . . no response to facts just anti-american rhetoric. The missed calls in that game, while they don't border on the absurd in the US-Canada game, where far worse and impacted the match more directly. But we won't hear about how Brazil just stole the game.
Yeah, but we all know what newsouth is ahead of time anyways
But there's no way for newsouth to let that video go unchallenged and retain his, um, credibility with us
newsouth isn't serious; he's a devil's advocate. He deliberately takes the controversial anti-view just to get replies. You have to filter what he says through what we know about his lens, like correcting an image for a fun-house mirror reflection.
Hence, his defense of Tancredi is really his acknowledgement that she was at fault (and therefore that she needs someone to cover for her).
North is the new south!
That doesn't seem terribly fair to the devil...
The thing is some are making this out to be its the Canadians who are dirty there the ones who hold all the blame no one else thats why people are upset.
I personally don't have a problem with Canadian fans being angry about the call, since I'd react exactly the same way if it happened to the US and we were out of gold medal contention. What I will say to Canadian fans is that your team played with a lot of heart and skill and will hopefully be one of the favorites heading into the 2015 WC being played at home. This game will only ignite them.
That being said, what I do have a problem with is a troll that could care less about Canada or Japan, is trying to stir up the pot since their favorite player (Marta) and their adopted favorite player (Delie) had disappointing tournaments. It's funny seeing him try to latch onto a star like Sinclair now. What's even funnier is that he's now forced to cheer for a team he completely dislikes (Japan) since he has no other choice. Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
FIFA has delayed any decision on discipline concerning Canadian comments until after the Bronze medal match.
Canada will play with a full complement of players.
I think that's a good decision.