Semi-Final : Germany v France - Rizzoli (ITA)

Anyone else loving the sky blue socks? I think they look real nice with the black unis.

 

is it just because the Germans are wearing black socks or is it always that combo?

 

Because the Germans are wearing black socks.

EDIT: See MassachusettsRef in this thread here: #251

 

Wow. HUUUUUGE call from the AAR.

 

Horrible call. Nothing like against Boateng. Hand right next to his head, may not have even made contact. Ridiculous to give PK for that.

 

I think it might have been the regular old AR who spotted that. I found it really hard to tell if it was hand or head until the angle across the field from the ARs perspective. Massive decision which he (they) seem to have got right.

 

Looks like he tried to punch it out or something...stupid move on his part.

 

He clearly made contact on replay. You can see his hand react to the ball. And I don't see how you can argue that is a natural position for his hand.

 

Nah. That was 100% a penalty. His arm is not "right next to his head", it's extended, and there is definite contact.

Had to crop the image on imgur because it didn't want to upload here so apologies if it is weirdly sized

 

In the replay when he was down on the ground, he was grabbing his head like it hit his head...even though nothing hit his head. Players like that drive me nuts.

 

Obvious penalty is obvious.

Can't believe there's debate about this online. People think Schweinsteiger should be allowed to jump into a header in a Clark Kent pose?

 

Huh? Replay shows the French player headed it towards the goal and the German's hand hit it. Great call.

I just wish Rizzoli was a bit clearer initially and pointed right to the spot.

 

The problem is that the Laws of the Game say nothing about hands/arms needing to be in a "natural" position, whatever the heck that is.

I got ridiculed for a similar comment regarding the handball called against Boateng in the QF, but having your hand/arm away from the body is pretty normal when running/jumping, and is not equivalent to "deliberately handling the ball" which is what is in the actual Laws of the Game.

The current interpretation is that any time a player has his hands/arms away from the frame of his body he is intending to handle the ball, but that interpretation has no basis in the Laws of the Game...

And if indeed the ball changed direction before hitting Schweinsteiger's hand due to it hitting the head of the French player, then you also have to consider that Schweinsteiger had no reaction time to get his hand out of the way.

 

You were wrong then and you're wrong here, too

 

Please folks, don't feed the troll this time. As he said, we had the same discussion in the other thread...let's leave it at that.

 

You are gonna have to eat your words.
100% correct decision here, every replay shows it, great teamwork by the crew whoever first spotted it.
Even Ballack has said it was a correct decision and is baffled by Schweinsteiger's action.

But based on the first half, I expect the Germans to grind it out as usual!

PH

 

This is all one needs to know about the play.

 

The replay from behind the goal showed him putting the whistle to his mouth almost immediately,
and he did point to the spot. The problem was there were too many players there and most of them did not realize
what happened.

PH

 

You conflate concepts at odds with how the game has been refereed for a very long time. The mens rea of deliberateness is met by the decisions players make with where their arms are. When a player deliberately puts his arm up where the ball is going to be, he's responsbile for where the arm is. It's the choice he made before the ball was deflected that makes it deliberate. Especially at the professional level, players are expected to be in control of their bodies. When arms are somewhere that takes up space the ball could reaosonably be expected to be, that deliberate action of putting the arm there is all that it takes to meet the deliberate element of the law. Put otherwise, "deliberate" is a term of art. IFAB and FIFA and USSF are all in accord with what it means. That it doesn't match what you think is utterly irrelevant. Your endless harping on this is ludicrous and add nothing whatsoever to referee discussions.

 

Anyone have any idea what Neuer was appealing for on the goal?