News: Seleção General Discussion 2023 [R]

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  1. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Most of the Brazil players called up for the friendly only have one match this week. Some have two with Cup matches, and Andrey has 3! since Vasco's semi-final starts tomorrow. The biggest amtch of course is the clásico in Spain on Sunday.

    Weverton x Ituano, Saturday
    Ederson x Leipzig (CL), Wednesday (note, Man City plays the FA Cup on Saturday, but usually Ederson does not play FA Cup matches)
    Mycael x Maringá, Sunday (not sure if Mycael is on the bench or plays for the youth team)

    Arthur x Santa Cruz, Tuesday (Copa do Brasil), x Cruzeiro, Saturday
    Emerson at Southampton, Saturday

    Eder Militão
    Ibañez at Real Sociedad (EL), Thursday, at Lazio, Sunday
    Marquinhos x Rennes, Sunday (MArquinhos will probably be unavailable due to injury but back for the national team)
    Robert Renan x Dynamo Moscow (Russian Cup), Wednesday, at CSKA Moscow, Sunday

    Alex Telles at Fenerbahce (EL), Thursday, at Getafe, Sunday
    Renan Lodi x Newcastle, Friday

    André x Volta Redonda, Saturday
    Andrey at Flamengo, Monday, x ABC (Copa do Brasil), Thursday, x Flamengo, Saturday
    Casemiro at Real Betis (EL), Thursday, x Fulham (FA Cup), Sunday
    João Gomes x Leeds, Saturday
    Paquetá x AEK Larnaca (EL), Thursday
    Raphael Veiga x Ituano, Saturday

    Antony at Real Betis (EL), Thursday, x Fulham (FA Cup), Sunday
    Richarlison at Southampton, Saturday
    Rodrygo x Liverpool (CL), Wednesday, at Barcelona, Sunday
    Rony x Ituano, Saturday
    Vini Jr. x Liverpool (CL), Wednesday, at Barcelona, Sunday
    Vitor Roque x Maringá, Sunday (the second leg of this semi-final is March 26, so he will miss it)
     
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  2. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Moroccan squad for the friendly (they will also face Peru after the match with Brazil):

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    GOLEIROS: Bono (Sevilla), Munir El Kajoui (Al Wehda-ARA), Reda Tagnaouti (Wydad Casablanca), Mehdi Benabid (FUS Rabat)
    DEFENSORES: Hakimi (PSG), Nayef Aguerd (West Ham), Saïss (Besiktas), Mazraoui (Bayern de Munique), Chadi Riad (Barcelona), Achraf Dari (Brest), Jawad El Yamiq (Valladolid), Abqar (Alavés), Attiat Allah (Wydad Casablanca), Amraoui (Nice)
    MEIO-CAMPISTAS: Amrabat (Fiorentina), Sabiri (Sampdoria), Ounahi (Olympique de Marselha), Bouchouari (Saint-Étienne), Bilal El Khannous (Genk), Imran Louza (Watford), Kechta (Le Havre)
    ATACANTES: Ziyech (Chelsea), Ezzalzouli (Osasuna), Aboukhlal (Toulouse), En-Nesyri (Sevilla), Zaroury (Burnley), Cheddira (Bari), Hamdallah (Al Ittihad-ARA), Boufal (Al Rayyan-CAT), Ibrahim Salah (Rennes)
     
  3. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    This will be a good test for post-2022 World Cup Brazil. The 4-year cycle between each World Cup always seems renovation and rebuilding. I'll have to get used to whoever the new coach is.

    Speaking of which, I still hold out some hope CBF will invite Abel Ferreira as technical coordinator Ricardo Gomes said he no longer considers Abel to be a foreign coach given he's been in Brazil for a few years, knows the soccer culture well, and has been successful within Brazil's domestic play. I speculate that Portugal's historic relationship with Brazil and the fact Abel by default is a native speaker of Portuguese influenced both Abel's transition to Brazil (although not every Portuguese manager has been successful) and Gomes' view of Abel.

    As for the current cycle, the 2026 World Cup qualifying fixtures have been announced. The "todo mundo contra todo mundo duas vezes" template remains in place, with two matches in each fixture. There will be substantial pauses; after the three iniial rounds (September, October, and November of this year), WCQ will only resume in September 2024.

    Brazil's first match will be at home vs. Bolivia. There will be an alternation of home and away matches; therefore, Brazil's schedule in 2023 will be: Bolivia, at Peru, Venezuela, at Uruguay, at Colombia, Argentina.
     
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  4. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    In addition to the news about WCQ, there are details on the March 2024 international window:

    https://ge.globo.com/futebol/futebo...peus-de-primeiro-nivel-em-marco-de-2024.ghtml

    UEFA and CONMEBOL have agreed to schedule friendlies between their nations for that window. The top 6 teams in CONMEBOL will get to choose opponents from Nations League first division, the other 4 will have to play European teams from Nations League second division. Matches will be in Europe.

    This looks like the outcome of earlier rumors/attempts to get a joint Nations League going.

    After World Cup 2026, the big change is that while the same number of matches will happen, the September and October window will be merged so we will have 4 matches in one international break. As it stands, those would be WCQ matches if the same format is kept.
     
  5. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Marquinhos and Richarlison are out due to injury.

    Marquinhos has not recovered from the back injury that kept him out of the CL return leg.

    Richarlison left today's league match with a pulled hamstring after appearing to tweak it in warm-ups and playing only 5 minutes.

    The comissão técnica is traveling to Morocco and will decide on replacement call-ups after they arrive.
     
  6. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Bremer and Yuri Alberto have bene chosen to replace them:
    https://www.cbf.com.br/selecao-bras...to-estao-convocados-para-a-selecao-brasileira

    It will be interesting to see how starts at 9, since the back-up is Vitor Roque from the U20. Would be cool to see him start. I suppose it could also be Yuri Alberto, they're both here for the first time, but it could also be Rodrygo (with Antony on the right) or even Rony, even though those were seen primarily as options for the wide areas.
     
  7. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  8. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    RIO AND CHICAGO
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Glad to see Yuri. What a goal scorer he is.
     
  9. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  10. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    RIO AND CHICAGO
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    10 new players, will be interesting to see. What an opportunity for these youngsters that can't even believe it themselves.
    A delegation from CBF is on its way to Europe to resume negotiations with Ancelotti. We shall see.
     
  11. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Ancelotti again chokes against Barca who were missing their main midfield player (Pedri). Game could have gone any way as Madrid had a winning goal called back by VAR by a close offsides. But what's glaring is that that needing a goal, Madrid looked incapable of coming up with something for most of the 2nd half as the game was tied. It's not like Barca were camping back this time around.

    Perhaps Madrid are showing their age in some spots (Kroos, Modric, Carvajal) and lack quality FBs , but I think he rode Bezema's uncommon ability to make something out of nothing last year and Vin Jr's brilliant moments.
     
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  12. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    RIO AND CHICAGO
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    It was a good game that's for sure.
    Ancelotti needs to get rid of that fuking annoying gum, lol.
     
  13. Doc_Exec

    Doc_Exec Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    Madrid this year are suffering because Benz is not in form; neither are goals coming from Valverde or Rodrygo. With some of the talent Brazil has up front, unlike Real Madrid, scoring should not be an issue for Ancelotti. Madrid still plays more attractive football than Barca; that type of football will suit Brazil very well. Subs are a problem with him, as was the case with Tite. Scolari had the Midas touch here.
     
  14. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Not sure about that. Benzema is slumping, but do we really have a striker up front that can score consistently ? Richarlison isn't really exactly that prolific and he isn't even playing striker for Spurs. Raphinha and Anthony don't inspire me any confidence. Martinelli is doing well and I hope he keeps improving, but he plays on the same side as Vin Jr. We still gonna count on Neymar ?
     
  15. Doc_Exec

    Doc_Exec Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    Gabriel Jesus doesn't score many either. Nevertheless, Brazil have options up front who can put the ball in the net from time to time, unlike Real Madrid (Alvaro Rodriguez seems promising for Real though). With regard to Brazil, let's hope for the best with Vitor Roque.
     
  16. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  17. brasileiragem

    brasileiragem Member

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    May 21, 2018
    Tite > Abel > Ancelotti
     
  18. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    RIO AND CHICAGO
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Top 5 from my sources in Brasil, in order of preference:
    Ancelotti , Jose Mourinho , Jorge Jesus, Abel Ferreira, Fernando Diniz
     
  19. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I haven't searched for news on him, but it seems that Tite has gone into complete hibernation after the WC exit. He said that the 2018 elimination hit him hard. Looks like this one may have hit him harder.
     
  20. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    RIO AND CHICAGO
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Sport TV showed Tite on the news today chillin out and reconciliating his next step in coaching.
     
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  21. celito

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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Galvão is going to be calling the Seleção game on his YT channel .... dude didn't really retire, he wont let off that bone ... :ROFLMAO:
     
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  22. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I posted this in the old thread, but I'll post it here too since it came up:

    https://ge.globo.com/futebol/seleca...23-e-estuda-ingles-por-chance-na-europa.ghtml

    I can't stand Galvão Bueno at this stage. Cléber Machado also was let go by Globo today. Both are excellent narradores in their own right, but both are more prone to rambling and missing goals today than calling a good match. But nostalgia means that people associate certain voices with the national team or big matches in general and so once that connection is established it's hard to bring in someone new. I'm sure Galvão's broadcast will be a success but I'm very curious about the numbers as the internet, as big as it seems to us, is a different world compared to a Rede Globo when it comes to reach and ratings.
     
  23. Al Gabiru

    Al Gabiru Member

    Jan 28, 2020
    #73 Al Gabiru, Mar 23, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2023
    I couldn't stop laughing when I saw Ramon Menezes' selections for this friendly match against Morocco. America-MG? Vasco? No Flamengo player?

    Obviously a call made by agents to sell players.

    Ramon Menezes wouldn't even have the autonomy to say NO. They put him there, and said, these are the names.

    Who can blame him? The chance to coach Brazil NT, even for a day, in exchange for the names having already been chosen by the agents
     
  24. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I know we love our conspiracy theories and one of the favorites in Brazilian soccer is the idea that agents make these call-ups, but really? If this were about making money they'd be playing two friendlies, they'd have renewed the contract with Pitch or found another partner and the list would probably be more coherent, not as random as it seems.

    This kind of post doesn't add much to the conversation, but just for a quick rebuttal:

    He called five players from his U20 team. That was expected. The guy from Vasco was already a Chelsea player. The guy from América-MG plays the position with the least depth and had an excellent U20 tournament. To pick another one, Vitor Roque is basically expected to go to Barcelona. He's the most marketable of the young ones, but he's already on everyone's radar.

    The 21 year-old guys: João Gomes (who was with Flamengo until January) and André were both on Tite's expanded list and were expected to be part of this cycle. Two of the new call-ups are from Palmeiras, so while Flamengo aren't represented, it's not like the top teams were ignored.
     
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  25. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    The coverage of Rony and his role in training is demonstrating one of the pluses of this call-up: how fans in Brazil are a little more invested in this friendly than they might be otherwise because they are closer to these players.

    Training today included a few more variations:
    https://ge.globo.com/futebol/seleca...eirenses-e-indica-duvidas-para-amistoso.ghtml

    The starting line-up in training though seems like a safe bet for the match:

    Ederson, Emerson Royal, Militão, Ibañez, Alex Telles; Casemiro, Andrey Santos, Lucas Paquetá; Rony, Rodrygo, Vini Junior
     

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