Seleção General Discussion, 2022 [R]

Discussion in 'Brazil' started by Ombak, Jan 9, 2022.

  1. Philipp Morgenstern

    Manchester United
    Australia
    Oct 30, 2021
    They can probably get a concacaf opponent for a second match.
     
  2. manimal

    manimal Member

    Dec 23, 2018
    I hope they will use a C squad or u20 players and agree with 0 - 0... I don't wanna see anyone get injured with WC ahead. I hope they are aware of that and smart
     
  3. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    PSG has basically opened the door for Neymar to leave. When asked about their plans with regards to Neymar, Al-Khelaifi said "Neymar part of the new project or not? We can't speak about this in public as some players will arrive, some players will leave the club. These are private negotiations". He also said the bling-bling era is over (clear reference to Neymar's style on and off the field).

    In the past they'd say he is non-negotiable. Neymar on the other hand says he wants to stay and has activated an option to extend his contract for another year till 2026 (he has yet another option next year another extension till 2027).

    How this affects us ? Well, it looks like Neymar will stay and PSG can't anything about it. I just wonder if his playing time will be cannibalized in the first half of the season pre-WC even being benched. Would be a ballsy move from PSG but not out of the realms of possibilities. Specially if they want to (yes, a bit of conspiracy here) mess with our chances of winning the WC and benefit France. Qatar are knee deep in France after all.
     
  4. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I feel like they've been open to negotiating him before, and not just when he tried to make his back to Barcelona. It does feel a bit different this time, but I don't think it's a given that he'll move. For one, who's going to pay for him?

    As for what it means for us, losing playing time would hurt.

    Would it be enough to put Neymar on the bench and make Paqueta/Raphinha/Vini/Richarlison the default and Neymar the alternative? That could work in our favor if Neymar is willing and considering that with 5 subs he can still have a regular impact.

    I don't think Qatar would pick France over Brazil though if they had to pick a team for the final, even considering their involvement in French football. I imagine their dream final is Brazil x France, but between the 2, a final with Brazil generally gets more hype.
     
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  5. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Reportedly the preliminary list can have 55 players. Not sure if it has to be 55 or if it is up to 55.

    Either way, that will lead to some silly discussions among pundit shows, where they'll now spend time deciding if the 5th right-back listed actually has a shot or not. Fagner will almost certainly be on the list as a back-up.

     
  6. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    A couple of articles/features worth posting recently:

    https://ge.globo.com/futebol/futebo...firme-na-recuperacao-de-lesao-no-joelho.ghtml

    Veríssimo is back to Benfica for recovery in the pre-season but isn't expected to play until September according to this. I thought he would be ready by the beginning of the season but this makes me very pessimistic about his return. Looks unlikely to be called up in September and that makes an October WC call-up unlikely.

    Tite was on the 6a estrela podcast (globo esporte) today. I haven't listened yet but the quote that's making the rounds early is:

    https://ge.globo.com/blogs/blog-do-...s-e-elogia-ele-nao-e-problema-e-solucao.ghtml

    Danilo has been getting some press time too. Recently was on an internet podcast and today was on Bem, Amigos:

    https://ge.globo.com/sportv/program...izer-que-nao-melhorou-nao-e-inteligente.ghtml

     
  7. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    PSG stated they won't have Neymar for the 2022-2023 season.
     
  8. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    What a soap opera his time at PSG has been . He leaves Barca after just renewing . Wants to go back less that 2 years in and Qatar says no . Now he wants to stay but they are kicking him off . Terrible mismanagement of a career. His time in the spotlight at the world stage looks about done .
     
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  9. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Still don't see Neymar going anywhere. Reports are that he is calm, not in a rush and focused on the WC. At most, it would be some sort of loan. But he ain't risking WC chances by going to a new environment 3 months before it starts.
     
  10. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Already there is at least one person reporting that not only is PSG willing to loan, they're willing to pay his salary during the loan spell. Might be BS, but as you said, he is not in a hurry to go anywhere and I guess if someone is willing to do that he can pick and choose.
     
  11. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Oh no ... I think they definitely want to offload him one way or another for this season already. I just don't believe Neymar will go. He has to approve either move after all. Unless he gets the message that they are going to bench him for the first 3 months which would be bad for his form. PSG might make the coach make that decision as a footballing one (as in he doesn't fit the system I want to play). But not sure PSG would go that far.
     
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  12. manimal

    manimal Member

    Dec 23, 2018
    PSG is such a shithouse club.... I hope it will not affect neymars form for WC. I want to see him at his best.
     
  13. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Marcelo Bechler had a good summary of the situation and he seems to think that if Neymar can't be offloaded, it's not like they'll just not play him. He'll play for PSG if he stays.

    And if he moves, I can't imagine any team that brings him in not using him as a key player.
     
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  14. brasileiragem

    brasileiragem Member

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    May 21, 2018
    20 anos do penta! que venha o hexa!!!!!!! IMG_8576.JPG
     
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  15. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Great memories !! But I have to say, that was such a weak WC ! Given that the favorites Argentina and France got KOed in group stage, Italy and Spain who had good teams got robbed, and Germany was really average (and we played them with no Ballack) ... it was really our obligation to win that WC. England on paper was the toughest team we played but they "amarelaram" like usual. The players always say that Belgium and Turkey were tough, but had we lost to them it would have been considered a national humiliation. Not gonna complain, but the red carpet was really laid out for the Penta in that WC.
     
  16. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
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