Convocação is Monday, May 18 at 5pm in Rio. Reportedly, there will be about an hour of preliminary stuff. That means the names will probably be read shortly after 6pm Rio time (5pm Eastern). You can watch it on CBF TV Or if you want commentary all day TNT will also have coverage: I will be on vacation next week and on the road until Monday night. But I will be listening to the press conference!
I just watched the Chelsea vs Man City FA Cup final. It'll be a Dunga-level mistake to take Joao Pedro instead of Neymar. A 50% Neymar is far better than a Pedro. After following Pedro several times this season, he simply can't pass, can't dribble, has no physicality, and can hardly score.
I don't watch Chelsea play ... but they don't even play the same position no ? I don't think it's a one or the other decision. There is a decent analysis video of Neymar in Brazilian YT channel. He would need to play in midfield making passes because he has lost his dribble and too much of his explosion. There is a highlight that he is free on goal with 2 players barely behind him and instead of using that to his advantage, he holds the ball and pulls back ... instead of rushing to the goal. Weirdly enough in the last game for Santos, he played mostly deep up front. Perhaps to try and get him goal. Weird decision. The problem is that even improving a bit physically, he is still mis-trapping easy balls and fighting against his body. Too inconsistent with passes. If dribble was the only thing he lost, I'd say take him. Right now, I still don't see it. But with so many injuries, his chances are definitely increasing. Based on some of Carlo's comments, I think he is leaning towards taking him.
I was implying that drop Joao Pedro and take Neymar instead (even if for a different position). Joao Pedro will hardly score and does not offer anything else. Despite Neymar's current shortcomings, he still offers more to the team than Pedro (in fact, both Pedros). You (and the TV channel) are right in that Neymar would need to play in the middle (and not as a starter).
Andrey and Rayan are also in the running. One repórter today said that CBF requested Neymar's latest fitness data from Santos People are assuming it means Neymar is in. He might be. It could also just be something they do for all players or at least the last ones they have to decide on. Heck in 1994 that data cost Mozer his spot. You never know, maybe they freak out at Alex Sandro or someone else's injury risk and dont take someone we all expect. But as far as Neymar, it's less about comparing him with another individual and more about what role he can actually play for this team. Its possible that if João Pedro were out, Andrey and Rayan could both come in as they bring things Ancelotti likes.
Almost 4 years later, Tite has finally come out and talked about the WC. Nothing really that revealing. No surprise he admits he took the loss very hard. That was pretty obvious. Probably a problem when you feel that you're chosen by a higher being to win the title. He explains why he left the field after the loss against Croatia. I still think it's the wrong decision. But I respect the work he did.
I have said before that Rayan is one of the most in form Brazilians in Europe and that he deserves to go to the World Cup. As to Neymar, I think that his time is past. The injuries he has suffered have caught up to him and he is simply an old man walking.
I think Neymar will get picked off of pressure but I just don't see how he positively contributes. Would love to be wrong though.
Too much pressure for a foreign coach to not be compelled to pick Neymar. The call up is happening now. --- Ney was called up, and as discussed earlier, Joao Pedro was not.
carlo was joking too much about curiosity of people for him not to be called . Bern doing that for a while too . So I had a feeling he’d be called as soon as he joked today
Brazil team is very good. It’s an unexpected candidate to win the World Cup now that Casemiro is back dominating at United, with Vini and Rafinha in good form, and if Neymar is fit. Forming a trident with Casemiro, Danilo/Fabinho, and Guimarães, plus the attacking trio of Vini, Neymar, and Rafinha, could make it a much stronger team than expected
I'm not against Neymar being called at all. It sad but I trust 34 year old past his prime Neymar than any of our attackers, none of them have lit it up for Brazil in his absence.
It is what it is. I'd find the exclusion of an Endrick much more worrying than João Pedro. I do think we'd have more tools if we had an extra mid. As for Neymar, feels like a confirmation this is a throwaway. Winning this, with or without him, would be a hugely unexpected win, and with the 2030 plan in place I guess they decided to go ahead. Biggest surprise is Weverton, no question. Not used by Ancelotti, but the other options are so bad they decided to replace one with another experienced keeper who is at least in good form. John's injury makes him not an option so that's what we get. Now let's cross out fingers that we dont get the statistically likely injury in training camp.
This is apparently the WC with most repeats in the roster from the previous one (15 players). Same thought I had ... since Carlo renewed, he knows he can please the masses in this WC by calling Neymar since he will get another shot. Not that Carlo isn't a manager that doesn't like veteran experienced players, he absolutely does. And it's the safer option in this situation to see how much Neymar can still recover physically in 3 weeks time. Specially after Rodrygo and Estevão got injured. First question is if his calf is healthy though as it was being treated when he was subbed off. The drama with him being called or not has ended. Now starts the drama if he will be a starter ... and in which position. Logically, Raphinha would lose his place IMO. Unless Raphinha becomes some false 9.
Will Ancelotti try to build Neymar/Vini/Raphinha like Mbappé/Vini/Rodrygo? Mbappé doesn't do much defensive work either, and Neymar has the playmaker qualities that Mbappé lacks, but currently the brazilian doesn't have the frenchman's goal-scoring ability Real Madrid's attacking trio of Kylian Mbappé, Vinícius Júnior, and Rodrygo have 16 wins, 2 draws, and 6 defeats in 24 matches with a 66% win rates until April 25, 2025 https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futb...dentes-barca-madrid-final-copa-cara-cara.html later they lost the Copa del Rey final to Barcelona, but they didn’t play together, Mbappé came on in place of Rodrygo. https://www.sofascore.com/en-us/football/match/real-madrid-barcelona/rgbsEgb#id:13708595 But together they lost both knockout ties to Arsenal: https://www.sofascore.com/en-us/football/match/real-madrid-arsenal/RsEgb#id:13513403 https://www.sofascore.com/en-us/football/match/real-madrid-arsenal/RsEgb#id:13513422
I think it was PVC who pointed out earlier this week that most of Brazil's wins came with rosters that had the fewest returning players.
Concerning discussions over the inclusion of Neymar, or non inclusion, during the past year, I don’t believe the opinion of participants of this platform represents the sentiment of the Brazilian people, from everything I have seen and heard the past 6 hours. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYfv3O7KEiF/?igsh=MWgzYnN1dXV5d2Q1Yw==
As celito said, now begins the drama about whether Neymar will be a starter. Until we see otherwise the answer for now is no. And most people calling for his inclusion have been using the reasoning that he can be an impact sub.
Globo did a poll and Neymar's inclusion lost by 2 percentage points. The problem with that is that regardless of the on the field performance he divides opinions today. I don't think he deserves it on the field, but some don't want him for other reasons. And others want him for other reasons. You can't really have a nuanced discussion about it.