Secret Service investigates high school kids for singing 42 year old Dylan song

Repped.

Without, unless it's an adjective, as in "Ian probably tried to beat up a high school kid in the past, but, realizing he'd bitten off more than he could chew, called on some of his red-necked pals. They held her down while he escaped".

 

Uhh, threatening the President of the United States is a crime.

 

Tell that to Jesse Helms.

 

But only you is 100% sure that they did......Do they just let you out on weekends?

 

The only 'evidence' you've produced that the they threatened the President is that they called themselves the Taliband. Yet you want to beat the crap out of them. I know who I think is a punk, and it ain't the Taliband.

 

so you think they were a threat to the president's life? If not, they weren't threatening him.

Unless you can tell me what they said, or where alleged to have said, you don't have a leg to stand on. Saying that they hope the president dies is not a threat. Even if they stood there shouting "Die Bush Die!" that is not a threat either. Unless they were saying they were going to kill Bush, or were encouraging others to kill him, they didn't threaten in any way. It may have been in bad taste, but I guess you know how to beat respect into 'em eh?


For the record, when Tony Blair was in hospital recently for an operation, a sleazy night-club owner addressed a group of young conservatives and part of his speech had the call "Die Tony Die" in it. While it was reported that it was in incredibly bad taste, there were no calls for him to be arrested and nobody thought it was their moral duty to beat him up (even if he does have the kind of face that you'd really like to hit - google peter stringfellow). I guess we don't share your moral outrage. Then again, the way you prize it, I don't think you want to share it either.

 

In a related story, the Secret Service is now investigating every punk band from the 80's....

 

Lighten up, Ian. Context is everything in free speech. If, for example, a young anti-Bush partisan cries out to his friends, "I hope Bush dies," would that be considered a threat? I think not. It may be an immature and certainly an obnoxious statement, and I wouldn't want my kid to say it, but that is exactly what the First Amendment was intended to protect.

 

I did the mitochondrial DNA test and found out my mom's mom's mom's mom's mom's mom's mom's mom (or something like that) is from the Turkana in Kenya.

Then I did the Biogeographical ancestry test and found out I was mainly black and Native American. Which is interesting since that is the primary makeup of my adopted family as well. So the Turkana thing runs, likely, as fully true, on one side - my biological mother's side - as it can.

So maybe I'll see you there at some point; right now, many in the Turkana are getting by mainly on blood and milk. Laurel and I are already working to change this reality, but there's nothing like being on the ground.

 

Of all the crazy things said in this thread, I think I disagree with this statement the most. Brilliant, brilliant song.

 

Oh, don't get me wrong -- the lyrics are fabulous, and perhaps some of his best. The tune and chord structure are monotonous, though, and not even in a way that could be perceived as allegorical for the "drumbeat of war" or some such concept.

And I agree with Superdave. To live up to the likes of "Blowin in the wind", "Maggie's Farm", "Don't think twice (it's alright)", "Sad-eyed lady of the lowlands" and "Tangled up in blue" is a tall order indeed.