Sebastian Lletget at West Ham

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  1. Hararea

    Hararea Member+

    Jan 21, 2005
    No Lletget news?

    Ok, Sagi Lev-Ari got past the NCAA, but it's widely known that foreign-based athletes get paid without <ducks> ... ;)
     
  2. JG

    JG Member+

    Jun 27, 1999
    Lletget hasn't played in the last five Dev Squad matches. End of an era on the YA forum.
     
  3. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well at least its looking like he's going to finally leave
     
  4. Werdman89

    Werdman89 Member+

    May 27, 2008
    Boston, MA
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    fwiw one of the replies is "Good luck in LA"
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  5. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
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    Eeeeeeenteresting.
     
  6. kba4life

    kba4life Member

    Jun 4, 2009
    Claremont, California
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    Well, there's going to be a slight uptick in hair product sales in LA after he comes.
     
  7. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
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    Chicago Fire
    LA Galaxy II, right?
     
  8. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    The Galaxy seem to have depth at CM, with Husidic also a Bruce favorite. Maybe he also sees time wide and underneath the striker.

    Or maybe he's signing with LAFC and will be loaned out.
     
  9. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
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    It was a joke on my part :)
     
  10. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    Such a mysterious time spent at Aston Villa. Why was he never loaned out?
     
  11. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Erm, don't you mean West Ham?

    He's never had anything to do with Villa, or Birmingham for that matter.

    Mind you, the latter probably qualifies him to be a FOX News pundit.:D
     
  12. Jazzy Altidore

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    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Right, West Ham. I always confuse those teams for some reason. Why was he never loaned? Why pay him a salary for years to never even play him in an exhibition with the 1st team?
     
  13. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Three possible reasons:
    1) he never asked the club or his agent to arrange a loan, or
    2) no club ever wanted to take him on loan, or
    3) both.

    My money is on 2.
     
  14. Jazzy Altidore

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    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's a pretty superficial response--I'm hoping for a deeper explanation. Also, many loans are initiated by the club to further development of the player, or to showcase a player in order to set up a transfer so to at least receive a return on the investment. If anyone has any actual knowledge I'd be interested.
     
  15. The Irish Rover

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    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
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    Manchester United FC
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    Ireland Republic
    #1865 The Irish Rover, Apr 22, 2015
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2015
    This thread is on its 75th page. At 20 posts per page that's getting on for 1,500 posts - since June 2006! If anybody had any knowledge, it'd have been posted by now.

    Even if he's completely thick, his agent isn't and the club want to recoup their investment, giving both very good reason to arrange a loan at some level, (and being based in London, there's about 20 Championship, League 1 and League 2 teams in commuting distance) even if West ham eats more than the customary 50% of the player's wages. Nothing has happened, or even been rumoured to be about to happen, which suggests nobody wanted him very much.

    He's a reserve team player for a mid-table EPL team, who has one FA Cup appearance and about half-a-dozen bench appearances in four seasons. Nobody knows much about players like that and nobody is interested in finding out - unless his name is Julian Green ;).

    The only people who really know why a loan has never happened are the player and his agent. Ask them!:D



    Edit: According to Transfermarkt, he doesn't have an agent. If that's true, then that may go some way to explaining why he hasn't found a loan deal. It's unlikely though - everyone has an agent.
     
  16. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    psssst.... there's a post count at the bottom right of each post.
     
  17. ArsenalMetro

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    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
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    Arsenal FC
    You confuse them because they're the same colors, essentially. And because a certain American had a hugely anonymous loan stint there.

    [​IMG]
     
  18. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
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    FC Bayern München
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    United States
    Lol I had forgotten about that loan
     
  19. Tom Collingsworth

    Jun 14, 2011
    North Carolina
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    United States
    #1869 Tom Collingsworth, Apr 22, 2015
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2015
    You would've lost that money. I remember reading a piece about some League 1 clubs inquiring about Lletget on loan like two seasons ago but West Ham wanted to keep his "development" in house and Lletget also wanted to stay as he felt he was "close" to his debut with the first team.

    At this point nobody really knows what Lletget's level is. He could turn out to be good starter in MLS or just as easily be out of the game in a few years. What I do know is that when he first went to West Ham he was considered one of the best players in his age group in the US. As much as his time spent in the reserves was disappointing I really doubt the last 4 years playing in the U-21's/reserves was any worse for his development than if he'd spent that same time playing college soccer.

    It certainly wouldn't be unprecedented for a career reserve to come over to MLS and make an impact. We saw Simon Dawkins toil in the reserves at Spurs and come over to MLS and prove to be a good starter at that level, which ultimately lead to him getting a chance in the Premier League with Villa upon his return and then a transfer and decent minutes with a good Championship club.
     
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  20. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    look at the impact mike grella has had on nyrb after having roughly the same career in england lleget could've had had he actually ever left whufc. i think if he (lleget) does come back to mls, he'll be better schooled and better trained than most of the guys in the league and he'll do well. maybe not starring, bit certainly average/above average. it'll be interesting to see him actually play, because obviously he's been one of the biggest enigmas in the history of us soccer. my fantasy mls sense is tingling...
     
  21. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Around Christmas 2012? That would coincide with him making the EPL bench 4 times between Nov 28th and January first. Since then, he's stalled and it's genuinely puzzling, because he gets good minutes for the U-21 side and usually goes 90', but never pushes on. If he was useless, they wouldn't play him anything like as much

    All true, but he has to get on the field and play. Dawkins is a perfect example; not too proud to drop down a level or two to the Earthquakes and now he's made 70 appearances for Derby at the business end of the Championship.
     
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  22. The Irish Rover

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    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    [​IMG]
     
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  23. Jgco

    Jgco Member

    Jul 14, 2011
    Alternately, if he had turned out to be as good as was expected, he could've gone to College but quickly been fasttracked into MLS, kind of like Perry Kitchen who is only 6 months older, but has over 100 MLS appearances and a national cap. Hell, Zardes did 3 years of college and now has 60 appearances and a national cap.

    To see what years of EDS prepares players for, just look at where the youngsters WH have let go in the past few years have ended up. 7 in League One, 3 in League Two, 1 in the Conference and 3 in the Conference South...

    Hard to see how the EDS years will have helped Lletget other than financially, over and above the chance to have likely gone to a top College programme.
     
  24. Hararea

    Hararea Member+

    Jan 21, 2005
    You and Gary Lineker. On Match of the Day, he just talked about Man City facing "West Ham <pause> ... sorry, Aston Villa."
     

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