Sebastian Lletget at West Ham

Haha he just spoke out his ass. Don't crucify the kid lol.

 

no one is crucifying anyone. We are debating the use of the word "IS"

 

I don't believe this is true. Sanneth found him and pass it up the chain. With JK, I sense he is not waiting for "1st team experience", if he hears good things about a kid he will have a look and if he likes what he sees, he will give him a chance, like in the Morales case. In BB's case I sensed he would ask the prospect to go through the U20/U23 route first. Maybe that is why Morales held out until now. In johnson's case, he was in the Germs radar but he hadn't had a look in almost two years. Here is a question to ponder...was Johnson better than Borstein a year ago or a year and half ago? Of course Borstein had more experience but I'm not sure even back then Borstein was better than Johnson playing wise. This is what I like about JK, he is willing to turn every stone to see what he can find..."nothing venture, nothing gained", now his game tactics is a different matter. I'm still waiting for him to come around.

 

You mean like JK is doing with Gatt and Mix?? Players who are consistently playing week in week out? Well Gatt has been injured, but prior to injury, JK still suggested he play with the U23's and work his way up.

His inclusion of Morales seemed more of a "Please dont go to Peru" callup to me.

what you (and Lletget) are describing is nothing new to the USMN.

EDIT* Johnson may be your only bit of evidence to defend the perception as it was JK who called him up and asked if he was interested in repping the US despite repping Germany in the U21s

EDIT** and the "Please dont play for Peru" comment was rather poor of me. He had played in the US youth system prior. There was interest from Peru, but he's been in the US system and i am glad JK is showing interest.

 

Agree 100%. I don't think Klinsi is doing anything new either. What i meant by that little example is that when Bradley, Arena, Bora and Sampson called in dual nats, it happened over time, each player with different circumstances, and with varying degrees of profile.

Klinsmann has come in, and is very quickly making Williams, Johnson, and Chandler mainstays of the team. And they are young, exciting talents - so you really take notice. Plus, there seems to be a new dual nat with every camp. I'm not saying that Bob wouldn't have done it, or hadn't started the process with some of these players. . . i'm just saying it is creating a perception that, for a guy like Lletget who probably isn't in tune with all this stuff (and why would he), it is not really that strange of a comment to make.

 

I guess the fact that these players were born and raised in Germany as opposed to being dual citizens that have lived in the US their entire life, could build the perception you are referring to.

So while dual citizens are nothing new to the US, the fact that some of the more recent picks have little connection to the US outside of having an American dad might be the reason for the comment....

Or like Liver and Boliva stated... perhaps he was just saying things to get through an interview..

 

Mixx case would be a poor example since he was already playing 1st team minutes with his club and did play with our senior team and because of his age and development I think he was asked to shore up the U23 squad, it doesn't mean he won't play for our senior team in 2012. lletget has been injured for a while so I can't speculate even more.
IMO, Morales was a kid that was sitting on the fence, he sees himself at a certain point in his development and JK gave him a try, probably now Morales has a better idea where he is at in the scheme of things. I feel this is the same thing with the Hoyos kid, he wasn't going to try for us in the U20/23 when he was already seen limited minutes in his club team, our only chance was to invite him for the senior which it never came so he stayed put (I would too if I was in his place) now with his accident and the Argies looking at other kids we may still get a crack at the kid.

 

Lletget and Morales are both not seeing pt (or at least consistent pt), where as Mix and Gatt are receiving consistent PT at their clubs and excelling. I would think Lletget and Morales would be better options for he U23's rather then a national team call-up (ie. Morales).

Now if you are saying the Morales call-up was to keep a promising talent interested in repping the US (like he did with the U20's) rather then swapping to Peru, i can understand your point. JK didnt needlessly cap him, but invited him to see the system and recognize where he stands.

I say we've debated this topic enough and it's getting close to becoming completely off topic so i say we jump back to Lletget

 

Agreed; this has already gone way off course, so let's mosey on back to the topic.

 

agreed

 

What position do most of you see Lletget playing? CAM? ad who do view as his main competition.. Mix? someone else?

 

I think he will be a box-to-box CM. I think he's the closest thing we have to a replacement for Holden, but I haven't seen him play a lot. From the few games I have seen he seems to have better vision and more ambitious passing than most of our current CM crop. I really think he might have a chance to sneak onto the 2014 team, but things will need to move quickly on the club front for that to happen.

 

He has over two years to get looks with the first team. if he is playing with any sort of consistency before 2014, he will be on the team.

 

I wonder how he and the club would feel about a MLS loan move similar to Simon Dawkins's San Jose move last year? That worked out well for both parties

 

Seb's been getting a bit of playing time in the reserves, now called the development squad but I'd like to see him go out on loan in the new year to start getting some competitive league experience.

 

Lletget and Potts both play 90 min in 2-0 win 13 March

I'm gald he's back playing and hopefully making progress at WH

http://www.whufc.com/articles/20120313/development-squad-sting-bees_2236884_2657533

 

Lletget went 90 minutes on Thursday in the 2-0 win for West Ham's developmental squad against their equivalent at Brentford:

http://www.brentfordfc.co.uk/page/LatestNews/0,,10421~2657283,00.html

 

The West Ham developmental squad won 5-1 at Cambridge a couple days ago but Lletget did not play.

http://www.whufc.com/articles/20120424/dev-squad-win-at-cambridge_2236884_2747978

Anyone know if he's injured at the moment?

 

In case anyone was worried, Lletget was not among the six pros released by West Ham:
http://www.whufc.com/articles/20120523/six-players-depart_2236884_2778655

 

Hopefully with West Ham back in the prem (excuse me while I vomit) it will make them more flexible. West Ham can fill the benches with more players and carry a bigger squad. Which would be good for Seb but another thing it does is make West Ham deep enough that they could loan out a player like Lletget to a Championship or League 1 club for some experience. I think if they were still in the Championship even though he wasn't with the first team they'd want to keep him around, just in case.

Seb is going on 20, it's around this age players in England usually start getting loans. There's a lot of options in League 1, that league now is filled with London or London adjacent clubs, and a few on the South Coast as well.

 

West Ham usually get them out young. Driver, Moncur, Wearen, Montano, Hall, Spence have all been out on loan from 18 onwards.

 

Thurrock's right back in this game, Adam Gemili, just qualified for the British Olympic team in the 100 meters.

Hey, it's the offseason.

 

Apparently Seb is going out with the first team squad on Monday for a pre season training in Austria. I'll be at the Borehamwood game Tuesday week so if he plays I'll post up.

 

Ooh, Borehamwood. Bet that'll be exciting.

 

Please tell me he played