Discussion in 'MLS: Expansion' started by BLG, Jul 17, 2002.
i made myself the same question...
American football fields normally are raised in the middle, that is, they have a crown that runs down the center of the field, lengthwise, that aids runoff in the event of heavy rain.
Soccer pitches are perfectly flat.
A narrow pitch (commonly the case when soccer is played on a surface designed for American football) combined with a crown makes the playing surface play even narrower than it really is since, in essence, passes to the sidelines are always going slightly downhill. If the playing surface is an artificial one that plays faster than grass, it makes the situation even worse.
Ah..ok, so does the 8" crown on this field make a big difference, will it affect the quality of play in your opinion?
I would say that since every MLS field except maybe Columbus (I think it's crowned also actually) has a crown, I doubt it. 8" on a regulation sized pitch is nothing.
All MLS stadia have crowns. And the players have adjusted. RFK had a crown in the 1994 World Cup, so FIFA obviously doesn't have a problem with it.
Nothing new in the following commentary, but I wonder why the only decent columnist with integrity around here writes for the Tacoma paper. The 2 Seattle papers are shills for Paul Allen and the stadium.
Paul Allen asks for more credit than deserved for buying Hawks
Peter Callaghan; The News Tribune (Tacoma, WA); August 22nd, 2002
Since I didn't read about this crown thing until after the Vancouver game, it didn't even enter my mind. I was more or less focusing on how the FieldTurf played, along with being mesmerized by Vancouver's lack of possesion.
Following the game, players spoke glowingly of the turf. Not surprising considering the concrete they normally play on.
Here's a recent article from the Eastside/South County Journal: http://www.eastsidejournal.com/sited/story/html/102833
The Sounders had hoped to play their playoff games in the Seahawks stadium, but scheduling difficulties make that impossible. Talks are proceeding at a slow pace about playing next season in the stadium (interested Sounders fans should fill out the survey at http://www.seattlesounders.net/stadiuminterest.asp).
The Sounders are also pursuing the option of a SSS at the Midway landfill site.
An artificial pitch needs to have a slope of less than 1% to be certified as indicated here. Over 30m, that's .3m or about 11.8".
the sounders play in memorial isn't it?????
wich is the capacity of that stadium???
i know that sounders might want to play in the new seahawks stadium next season... the prices will be around 130 - 325 bucks... a little expensive for an A-League match isnt' it???
Memorial has a capacity of 13,000, I think, but they only open one grandstand, so it's half that for Sounders matches.
Current season ticket prices are $130 for GA and $195 for reserved seats with discounts for youth and seniors.
well i think that thi is a little high....... really...
For the lowest price range, that averages out to less than $10/game. That's a great deal, at least here in Seattle, considering what tickets cost to major league sports these days. Add the benefit that those games might be in a stadium far nicer than what the team now has.
well i don't understand anything... I've read that the tickets will go at a $130-$300+ range...
and now pugetsoundmls says that the tickets will be at $10... please, explain this thing because i should be an idiot...
The proposed price for season tickets next year in the new stadium is $130-$325. A season ticket is one ticket that allows you to go to all games for the season. The A-League season includes 14 home games.
So the proposed price for season tickets breaks down to less than $10-per-game at the low end and less than $25-per-game at the high end.
Season tickets might also include any US Open Cup games, and maybe a playoff game or two, which means an even lower price-per-game.
Hope that explains things.
Personally, I still think it's too expensive. I can go to a Mariner's game for 6 bucks out in centerfield or 12 bucks out in left field. That's to watch a team that is at the top professional level, unlike the Sounders. I just can't justify to myself why I should pay 4 or so dollars more to go see a team that doesn't compete at the highest level and plays on fake grass vs. seeing one of the best teams play at the highest level in a superb facility (I'm still not sold at Seahawk Stadium as being a good venue for the Sounders, especially if they continue to only bring in 5,000 or so a game) (at least until they go on strike, after that, MLB doesn't exist to me).
well... I'm really an idiot... i thought that the $130 price will be for an ONLY match for the sounders...
well you can call me an idiot now
You'd get a better view of the game from a $10 seat at a Sounders game at Seahawks Stadium than you'd get of the game from a $6/$12 seat at a Mariners game at Safeco Field.
I don't think $10 a match is that outrageous. Basically the cost of a movie, although the concessions are certainly cheaper than the movies!!
As for baseball, to each his/her own, but if someone offered me a free baseball ticket v. having to pay my own way to the footy, I choose footy, hands-down. In fact, I've done that on more than one occasion this year
And yes, the footy doesn't go on strike unlike those multi-zillionaire babies who can't seem to realize what ELSE do you need to buy when you're making so much $$$ to begin with???
Plus, baseball fans are so damn comotose at games, only cheer when they're told to, and constantly chatting on their mobile phones
I think I've seen some of them sleeping in there....
i like baseball.. but only when Edgar Rentería plays (league champion with the Floirida Marlins, now playing with St Luis Cardinals)...
How about Luis Castillo? He's better than Renteria.
The problem with some of the fans in Seattle is that they don't know much about Mariners baseball pre-95. For those of us who've stuck by the team through the lean years, times are certainly good.
So, looks like no playoff games in Seahawks Stadium for the Sounders...?
who is him???? where is he from?????.... he is colombian too??? i don't know....
My fault, I thought he was Colombian, upon further review, he's from the DR (at least that's what a friend of mine says). He's second baseman for the Marlins. I think he was an All-Star this year, including a 30+ game hit streak earlier this season. He's been a solid player for a few seasons now.
Starting to look like no playoff games at Safeco for the Mariners too. Will Garcia come out of his coma in time? Will the A's ever lose again? Starting to look iffy for the M's at best you have to admit.