Season Tickets

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by jmeissen0, Feb 20, 2003.

  1. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    i'm starting a thread in here, becuase we finally have some sources stating some information


    the wizards have released that they have broken their own record for season tickets, in addition they let it be known that they are currently number two for *new* season ticket sales (thanks for pointing that one out, benc1357 and andy_b)

    now, bergin has reported that the rapids are experiencing good sales for their season tickets




    throw this all in with columbus being around 7k or so and things could be starting off quite well for the league at the get go
     
  2. keeppah

    keeppah Member

    Feb 10, 2000
    Taunton, MA
    I never got a call to renew my Revs season tickets, so they are obviously not trying very hard.
     
  3. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can someone post the link to Bergin's site, I lost it.

    Andy
     
  4. peledre

    peledre Member

    Mar 25, 2001
    Sioux Falls, SD
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078

    haven't you said this before?


    why don't you try calling them... friends of mine that get rev season tickets have already been contacted... maybe you somehow were accidently overlooked
     
  6. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078

    sorry, meant to put the link in after the fact (didn't have it handy... got sidetracked though)


    it's on the front page news portion of what peledre gave ya
     
  7. B1

    B1 Member

    Feb 19, 1999
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Really? They called me weekly to see if I was going to renew, beginning a couple weeks before their December deadline until I finally re-upped at the end of January. I told them the first time they called that I was going to, but since I was adding tickets to the three I had they would have to wait until I got all the money together.
     
  8. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
     
  9. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder if the Patriots office calls 60 k people on the phone to renew their season tickets or the Giants for that matter. Yes we feel very special .
     
  10. mpruitt

    mpruitt Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    E. Somerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
  11. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can someone explain the difference between average and median,what is median refered to?

    TEAM YEAR G TOTAL AVERAGE GROWTH MEDIAN
    MetroStars 1996 16 382,360 23,898 19,764
    MetroStars 1997 16 270,388 16,899 -29.3% 15,630
    MetroStars 1998 16 264,316 16,520 -2.2% 13,972
    MetroStars 1999 16 235,301 14,706 -11.0% 12,588
    MetroStars 2000 16 281,938 17,621 19.8% 12,544
    MetroStars 2001 13 270,477 20,806 18.1% 17,543
    MetroStars 2002 14 254,074 18,148 -12.8% 15,068
    MetroStars TOTAL 107 1,958,854 18,307

    One more thing, does anyone know how many season tix the Metrostars sold so far?
     
  12. ojsgillt

    ojsgillt Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lee's Summit MO
    in a series of numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9. 5 is the median because it is the middle number in the series.
     
  13. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    average is the average

    and median (unless i'm screwing it up) would be the middle number found


    such that let's say the number of people that waited for the fire at the airport for each trip back to chicago is this:

    20
    21
    10
    36
    34
    6
    45
    50
    10
    51


    based on that... here is your list with the median bolded:

    6,10,10,20,21,27.5,34,36,45,50,51

    so 27.5 would be your median, while your average would be 26.3

    if you have an even number of entries, it's the average between the two middle numbers (in this case 21 and 34)... if this group stopped at nine entries, than it would have been 21 (with no 51)
     
  14. keeppah

    keeppah Member

    Feb 10, 2000
    Taunton, MA
    Jim, I have said it before probably a month or so ago, but that does not detract from the fact that I have not been contacted. You know, if I even received a flyer in the mail it would be nice. If I am on their mailing list for every other soccer event in Foxboro, you'd think I'd AT LEAST receive something as a "potential" season-ticket holder, never mind the fact that I actually was a season-ticket holder. I'm also not the only one who hasn't been contacted, I know of two others (for a total of 8 season-tickets) that were never contacted. I think that shows very poorly on the Revs' efforts, or at least the system, to sell season tickets.

    And soccerfan, yes they DO call all 60K or so season ticket fans for the Patriots. In fact, I received something at the end of the Super Bowl year thanking me for my support, three notices to renew and two phone calls asking if I was going to re-up. I did, and after I did I received another CALL thanking me for re-upping. Not that I think the Revs and Pats are apples-to-apples operations, but if anything, I would have thought it would be the other way around. After all, the Pats make you pay just to be on the waiting list so I virtually add nothing to their bottom-line. The Revs, and all of MLS, however, could use as many season-ticket holders as they can find.

    I don't want to sound like sour-grapes, but I honestly don't think the Revs have a good system in place. I like all the PEOPLE fine, but there is definitely a flaw in the system. And I think there's nothing wrong with pointing that out.
     
  15. keeppah

    keeppah Member

    Feb 10, 2000
    Taunton, MA
    Before I get the comment that I need to be pampered:

    The Pats sent me a renewal notice SOON after the season ended, which I promptly filed away and forgot about. The second notice came around the draft time saying I needed to re-up by some specific date. I received a call about the same time as my second notice, but was not home. A week before my expiration date, I received a third "reminder" notice. Three days before the due date, I drove to Foxboro and handed them my renewal. When I got home, there was another message making sure I knew that I was potentially going to lose my right to my seats at Gillette.
     
  16. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Median = middle point average. Good for ferreting out values that skew the averages. For example if you have a group of values as 1, 2, 5, 7, 100, the median is 5.

    The mean (or average average as someone else put it) adds all the values and divides by the number of occurances. In the above example, the mean is 23. (1 + 2 + 5 + 7 + 100)/5.

    There's also the mode, which the most frequently occuring value. In the above example, there is either no mode, or 1, 2, 5, 7 and 100 are all equally the mode. I'm sure my mode answer should get more than a few replies, so go crazy, y'all!

    Regarding MLS attendance, the median and mean arguments revolve around where to put all those special doubleheaders and 4th of July matches.
     
  17. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Keepah,

    The Revs & Pats use the marketing folks, so it should be an apples-to-apples comparison. But for chrissakes, they probably fouled your address or phone # in their computer systems. Send 'em an e-mail and fuggetaboutit.
     
  18. pogon

    pogon New Member

    Feb 20, 2003
    Sanford,USA
    Does anyone know how many season tickets Revs have sold so far?I live in Maine and had flex season tix last year.I plan to get them this year too.
     
  19. keeppah

    keeppah Member

    Feb 10, 2000
    Taunton, MA
    Revolt,
    There's no way I'd miss this season and I absolutely am going to get season tickets. I certainly wouldn't miss out on this season for some grudge (which I don't have), especially one that petty.
    But if I somehow got dropped off the "list," and two ther people I know got dropped off the "list," there's only two things that could've happened:
    1) The Revs aren't making an effort to contact prior-season ticket holders, which doesn't bode well for their ability to increase sales.
    2) In the "big changeover" to a united Pats/Revs marketing department, somehow a lot of information was lost.

    I had high hopes about the Revs attendance numbers for this year. Between Twellman, the return of Moore, doubleheaders, and making a trip to MLS Cup, I thought they had a chance to really sell this team. There's too many variables to compare last year to this year, but anything short of a hefty increase would be disappointing, IMHO.

    This is an "MLS" forum and I hear a lot of positives out of other cities. While K.C. is making progress, the Revs seem to be taking steps back.
     
  20. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Keepah,

    I didn't realize you weren't the only one....

    As for season attendance, I believe that every club has lost attendance during their second year in a stadium. Anyone care to verify.
     
  21. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I realy didn't think they did that, 5 k phone calls is a lot, let alone 60 k. I agree with you that many of the MLS teams have a problem with their system, if KC and the Crew can do it, why can't our teams. You would think they pass along notes to each other and find the best system, it would be to their benefit to do so.
     
  22. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If true, this is truly amazing information. 6 weeks before the season the Crew would be on the verge of breaking THEIR season ticket record, and if they reached their goal, they would be the first MLS team to break the 5 figure mark in season tix. Add it to the fact they've increased their corporate sponsorship by 10% (or whatever the number was; it was on the boards a few days ago) for the second (or third?) straight year, and it's pretty clear the Crew have truly solidified themselves in Columbus as a successful sports franchise.



    as a sidenote: Galaxy ticket reps consistently tell their callers they are receiving "numerous" requests for 5 and 10-game season ticket packages, though they aren't being offered until mid-March. no numbers to report, just an inkling of demand.
     
  23. Jeremy Goodwin

    Jeremy Goodwin Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hunt seems to be really kicking his sales staff in their butts to get them moving on season tickets for his teams then.

    There was talk earlier in the year about trying to double (or something similar) the season tickets in KC, and the 10k goal is a big deal in columbus.

    Moving the burn to Dragon also appears to be an attempt to increase season tickets in preparation for the new stadium. If they have an announcement on Frisco before the season starts, they may get a bump from that for Dragon.
     
  24. nick

    nick Member+

    DC United; Manchester City
    United States
    Nov 23, 1998
    Purcellville, Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Flashman,

    I don't know where those numbers are coming from. Columbus last year reported 7316 FSE sold. A solid increase of over 9% from 2002 would put them up around 8,000.

    For Columbus to sell 10,000 FSE would represent a 36% increase. To put it kindly that's an overly optomistic projection.
     
  25. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    I would hope so. This is year 8 of the league, so just about everyone who was going to "kick the tires" has done so. The novelty of a new stadium has worn off in Columbus and will most likely do in Denver and New England as well.

    I do wonder what the hook is in KC. In Dallas and hopefully Jersey, the forthcoming stadium will be a hook. In DC, there really isn't one, unless you include the downsized RFK. The soccer capacity is now only 26K and United will not open the upper deck under most circumstances.

    The only information I have on United is that back in December, they reported surpassing the $1 million mark in ticket sales. At an average ticket price of about $325, that about 3075 season ticket equivalents.

    I do know that season ticket sales are ahead of last years pace, but not sure if that's a sustainable pace.

    What should be very interesting is how the increased season ticket base translates to higher attendence.

    Sachin
     

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