Scouting EACH opponent: Argentina

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Joep, Dec 10, 2005.

  1. Joep

    Joep Member

    Dec 7, 2004
    Antwerp
    Come on you argentines, fill us in!
     
  2. Serb

    Serb New Member

    Oct 1, 2005
    Southern Ontario
    We shall know after the three games that they play at the WC. :D
     
  3. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    You can try to play wide open against us and give us some space in midfield. :D

    Seriously, if I was playing against Argentina I would try to be very physical. A top priority would be to mark Riquelme very well, try to deny him the ball. be a shadow to him, don't let him breathe.

    Also watch for the wingbacks joining the attack from the laterals, players like Zanetti and Sorin. And of course depending which lineup Pekerman has you have to worry about players like Tevez or Messi causing damage.

    On attack, I would work a lot on crosses, because our goalkeepers are a bit suspect in that area. Especially if we start Abbondanciery, he is generaly solid but he can be troubled by crosses.

    But if Pekerman plays his cards right, we should have a lot of options and variables, we should be able to make adjustments to whatever you put against us. So good luck!
     
  4. Xeneize12

    Xeneize12 New Member

    Jan 28, 2005
    La Palma, CA
    Argentina's main problem is the same as always: diagonal crosses. Be it from set pieces or from dynamic play.
     
  5. sohka88

    sohka88 New Member

    Jun 21, 2005
    Xeneize12 is correct. I don't get it either... they have tall players but still don't cover well....

    If Macherano and Heinze are healthy there is nothing much they can't handle... However, they need these 2 players.
     
  6. Xeneize12

    Xeneize12 New Member

    Jan 28, 2005
    La Palma, CA
    Another problem I've noticed is not being set properly defensively against fast counter-attacks. This is going to be crucial against Ivory Coast (I'm actually assuming they have a fast paced style - like most African teams).

    This is one of the problems I see when they use a 4 man backline with Sorin as the LB. While I think Sorin is a phenominal player (like most Argentinos Juniors youth products) - he love's the attack. He loves it so much sometimes that he loses his place. This could leave that sector exposed - if they don't cordinate with the LM and the DM. One positive thing is that recently Sorin has been playing more conservatively - making runs when he has cover and not unduly exposing that side - so there is hope. That's part of the reason I like a three man defense (two stoppers and one libero) - though I see its potential weakness against wide attacking squads - (Holland).
     
  7. Pottermaniac

    Pottermaniac New Member

    Nov 28, 2004
    RGV, texas
    Let me give u guys a few tips for playing Argentian,

    watch out for your legs and face. They'll play ok, until they start feeling the pressure that they are about to lose. At that time they'll kick you in the face, fall down and pretend it was an accident.

    They are one of the diertiest countries, both at nt level and club level.

    Do not drink any jesus juice that they try to give u or you'll run with same fate as Brazil in '90.

    Over all, you have to be prepair to play a very phisical game otherwise, they will crush you.
     
  8. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Are you reffering to Mexico? Yeah.. I agree.
     
  9. Pottermaniac

    Pottermaniac New Member

    Nov 28, 2004
    RGV, texas
    oh so u actually think, you play fair? after what colluccini or whatever his name is did to morales in the confederations cup? and what dirtiest club all did to chivas in libertadores??

    you've got to be delusional.
     
  10. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I didn't say Argentina was the cleanest team. But you shouldn't be talking, since Mexico isn't any cleaner than Argentina. What Boca did to Chivas, I apologize for that.. But really I shouldn't be doing so, since I don't symbolize or represent Boca in anyway. In fact, Boca is probably the thing I hate most.. So don't come talking to me about them, since I have nothing to do with that.
     
  11. Pottermaniac

    Pottermaniac New Member

    Nov 28, 2004
    RGV, texas
    are u kidding? compared to argentina Mexico are angels. Every single WC Argentina has won, there's been something weird and twisted in it. even in '90.
     
  12. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The only reason something wierd didn't happen when Mexico won a WC is because they never were close to winning one... Sorry about that..
     
  13. megamac20817

    megamac20817 Member

    Jul 9, 2005
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    You guys are still sour for what happened in the Confed Cup? Take another look, or 3, and you'll see, if he hadn't done that, it would have been far worse.
     
  14. Pottermaniac

    Pottermaniac New Member

    Nov 28, 2004
    RGV, texas
    that's because we are not cheaters. when we win a world cup no one will say that we cheated.
     
  15. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yeah... when you win a world cup.. I wonder how many centuries that will take.
     
  16. megamac20817

    megamac20817 Member

    Jul 9, 2005
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    No, no, no loco... en un par de sieglos podran competir con Argentina :D
     
  17. Pottermaniac

    Pottermaniac New Member

    Nov 28, 2004
    RGV, texas
    0 centuries, but i wonder when will argentina win a wc again? how many centuries that would be?
     
  18. megamac20817

    megamac20817 Member

    Jul 9, 2005
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    0.01 century, which just incase you can't do the math, is 1 year.
     
  19. Pottermaniac

    Pottermaniac New Member

    Nov 28, 2004
    RGV, texas
    man, Argentina is a good team but hello??? you actually think they'll win? i mean for god sakes, you guys are already making excuses as to why you ain't getting out of the group stage.
     
  20. megamac20817

    megamac20817 Member

    Jul 9, 2005
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    WTF? No Argentine doubts we'll make it out of the group stage, and most of us actually do think we'll end up first in our group. Shut up about what you don't know.
     
  21. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Brazil may be the obvious favorite, but Argentina is one of only a handful of teams with a solid chance to lift the cup in Germany.
     
  22. El viejo Matias

    May 21, 2005
    Canada
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I think right now Brazil must be faves, followed by Argentina , Italy, Germany and England.... Holland as much as I respect them will self destruct, Spain has no backbone.. the Czech as darkhorses
     
  23. ZeekLTK

    ZeekLTK Member

    Mar 5, 2004
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    Argentina lost to Brazil in:

    -Copa America Finals
    -Confederations Cup Finals
    -World Cup Qualifying Final Table

    I guess the only thing left is to lose in the World Cup Finals? :D
     
  24. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    When you put it that way, it looks like Argentina are due for a win against Brazil. Bring it on!
     
  25. El viejo Matias

    May 21, 2005
    Canada
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Copa America, we outplayed them even a brazilian will agree. First game in the qualifiers we did not play that bad and one of the panelties was very questionable, second one in buenos Aires we killed them!! The Confederations Cup was admitedly miserable, we played the poorest I have seen in a while. In short yes on paper it looks like they have the upper hand, reality is these two could play ten games and the end result would be 2 wins each, two loses each and a draw each... that is how even they match up.
     

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