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Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by salyal, Nov 2, 2004.

  1. salyal

    salyal New Member

    Oct 24, 2004
    Islam is frequently misunderstood and may even seem exotic in some parts of today's world. Perhaps this is because religion no longer dominates everyday life in Western society; whereas, for Muslims, Islam is life. Muslims make no artificial division between the secular and the sacred. Accordingly Islam is not new religion, but a continuation of the simple and powerful message of pure monotheism revealed by God throughout history.

    A person who is unfamiliar with Islamic teachings might be surprised to hear that Islam does not rely upon blind faith to make its case, but rather, encourages us to use our minds. For example, the Qur'an invites us to ponder upon the wonders of creation, and challenges us with intellectual arguments. Further study of the Qur'an demonstrates that sound reasoning and scientific knowledge confirm rather than contradict authentic revelation. Indeed, one of the many unique aspects of Islam is its ability to satisfy the intellect whilst bringing peace to the soul.

    Rgarding woman we can say that most Islamic societies aren't theocratic. I find it interesting that the three largest Islamic countries have had women heads of state (Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh), while the same can't be said of the three largest Christian countries.

    Women in Christianity and Islam (see the difference):
    http://www.beconvinced.com/women/CH_IS.htm

    Islamic guide is for non-Muslims who would like to understand Islam
    www.islam-guide.com

    And for your other inquiries you also can visit the following sites:
    http://www.al-sunnah.com/

    Q&A Library
    http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&dgn=3

    http://www.jamaat.net/

    http://www.islamworld.net/

    http://www.islam-guide.com/

    http://islam101.com/index.htm

    http://islam101.com/religions/index.htm

    http://www.sultan.org

    http://www.todayislam.com

    http://www.islammessage.com/en
     
  2. Smiley321

    Smiley321 Member

    Apr 21, 2002
    Concord, Ca
    And if that gives you a headache, you can just strap on some explosives and go onto a jewish bus
     
  3. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    The ancient Babylonians were responsible for, among other things, the 360 degree and the 24-hour day.

    So how much ********** do I get if I make sacrifices to Ishtar? Or was it Astarte? Dammit, where's a good proselytizer when you need one?
     
  4. Smiley321

    Smiley321 Member

    Apr 21, 2002
    Concord, Ca
    Good thing they didn't make it 10 hours in a day, we'd all be working like slaves

    and if you want ***** you may want to consider the Wiccan religion, I'm told they are wild
     
  5. Own Goal Hat-Trick

    Jul 28, 1999
    ColoRADo
    shhh! theres no room for science with this administration in charge!
     
  6. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    Oops--meant to say 'divided the circle by 360 degrees, and the day into 24 hours."

    As for Wiccans--wouldn't I then have to perform some sort of ceremony with my spent love potion afterwards? Or am I thinking of Aleister Crowley?
     
  7. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Send me a PM. I'd love to tell you about Wotan's eternal love.
    Well, actually, Wotan's love's not eternal, but your devotion will be rewarded with a bounty of coupons to the Moonlight Bunny Ranch, a blender and a chalice from which you can drink the brains of your enemies to possess their power!
     
  8. salyal

    salyal New Member

    Oct 24, 2004
    Some post shows a complete and dangerous lack of comprehension. Islam is a religion, not a terrorist group. The media classifies Muslims as "terrorists," "highjackers" and "kidnappers." So why would anyone even look at Islam? Why are so many priests and preachers going to Islam?

    David Karesh was a Christian, shall we ban all Christian momentous?
    When you compare all of Islam to these terrorists, you essentially say every Sunday clothed bible reading Christian is a Branch Dividian fundamentalist. The linking of such actions to Islam or the Qur’an is incorrect. Rather, such inhumane actions clearly contradict the teachings of Islam - just as the bombing at Oklahoma City by Timothy McVeigh and the killings that occurred at Abraham Mosque, Hebron - Philistine by Dr. Baruch Goldstein clearly contradict the teachings of Christianity and Judaism, respectively.
     
  9. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    There is a lot of merit to what you say. It's easy to disparage an entire group for the sins of a few who may not be following the correct teachings. Having said that, there needs to be more of an internal debate within Islam as to why some adherents of the religion have embraced a dangerous and incorrect interpretation of Islam, and what mainstream followers can do to isolate these people and establish safeguards and mechanisms within the religion's structure to minimize the impact of the radicals.
     
  10. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
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    England
    DIE, HERETICS, DIE, with your anti-Leprechaun teachings. Has it not been said that there are but seven true Leprechaun gods. A least, we think it's seven - it's a bit difficult to tell because they're pretty small and they keep hopping about. 'Now hold still, fellas - otherwise we'll never get an accurate count'.
     
  11. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Vote Democrat?
     
  12. Caesar

    Caesar Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Oztraya
    It's probably already been mentioned, but this exact same spiel (grammatical errors and all) was posted in FFA a while ago.
     
  13. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I wasn't aware of that. Have you a link?

    Not that it matters particularly in the present, er, debate, but I'm interested anyway. I've tried googling and couldn't find anything definitive.
     
  14. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I'm in - where do I sign up?
     
  15. YITBOS

    YITBOS Member+

    Jul 2, 2001
    1.3 hours from CCS
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    United States
    ...that had very, very close ties to the Christian Identity "terrorists".
     
  16. salyal

    salyal New Member

    Oct 24, 2004
    I really don’t like misunderstanding of my intentions in this post .It is not an assault on Christianity or any other religion. It is indispensable for me to look for the truth and study comparative religion because if I would like to know whether a religion is true or false, I should not depend on my emotions, feelings, or traditions. Rather, I should depend on my reason and intellect. When God sent the prophets, He supported them with miracles and evidences, which proved that they were truly prophets, send by God and that the religion they came with was true.

    We cay say there are so many sects, cults, religions, philosophies, and movements in the world, all of which claim to be the right way or the only true path to God. How can one determine which one is correct or if, in fact, all are correct? The method by which the answer can be found is to clear away the superficial differences in the teachings of the various claimants to the ultimate truth, and identify the central object of worship to which they call, directly or indirectly. Can we either claim that all men are Gods or that specific men were God or that nature is God or that God is a figment of man's imagination.
    It may be argued that all religions teach good things so why should it matter which one we follow. I made some searching and I couldn’t find a sharp answer but I found something interesting stated in the Koran:
    Creation-worship is the greatest sin that man can commit because it contradicts the very purpose of his creation. Man was created to worship Allah alone, consequently, the worship of creation, which is the essence of idolatry, is the only unforgivable sin. One who dies in this state of idolatry has sealed his fate in the next life. This is not an opinion, but a revealed fact stated by Allah in his final revelation to man

    "Verily Allah will not forgive the joining of partners with Him, but He may forgive (sins) less than that for whom so ever He wishes"(Soorah An- Nisaa 4:48 and 116)

    Buddha was a reformer who introduced a number of humanistic principles to the religion of India. He did not claim to be God nor did he suggest to his followers that he be an object of worship. Yet, today most Buddhists who are to be found outside of India have taken him to be God and prostrate to idols made in their perception of his likeness.

    God revealed a holy book to Jesus called the Injeel, some parts of which may be still available in the teachings of God to Jesus in the New Testament. But this does not mean that the Bible we have today because it is not the original scriptures that were revealed by God. They underwent alterations, additions, and omissions. This was also said by the Committee charged with revising The Holy Bible (Revised Standard Version). This Committee consisted of thirty-two scholars who served as members of the Committee. They secured the review and counsel of an Advisory Board of fifty representatives of the co-operating denominations. The Committee said in the Preface to The Holy Bible (Revised Standard Version), p. iv, “Sometimes it is evident that the text has suffered in transmission, but none of the versions provides a satisfactory restoration. Here we can only follow the best judgment of competent scholars as to the most probable reconstruction of the original text.
    The Committee also said in the Preface, p. vii, Notes are added which indicate significant variations, additions, or omissions in the ancient authorities (Mt 9.34; Mk 3.16; 7.4; Lk 24.32, 51, etc.).

    My question is do we believe in the information declared in the following sites or not:

    THE REAL STORY OF MARY
    http://geocities.com/SoHo/Gallery/3001/storyofmary.htm

    THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS
    http://sultan.org/articles/Jesus.html

    Who Was Jesus According to Jesus?
    http://www.islaminfo.com

    IS THE BIBLE GODS WORD?
    http://www.jamaat.net/bible/Bible1-3.html

    Women in Christianity and Islam
    http://www.beconvinced.com/women/CH_IS.htm

    The Bible - A Closer Look!
    http://www.todayislam.com/bible.htm

    The Islamic and Christian views of Jesus: a comparison
    http://www.soundvision.com/Info/Jesus/inIslam.asp

    Christ in Islam
    http://home2.swipnet.se/~w-20479/Christ.htm

    Mary & Jesus in Quran
    http://www.islamworld.net/

    Is Jesus the Same as God?
    http://home2.swipnet.se/~w-20479/Samegod.htm

    None of the Bible’s Writers Believed That Jesus is God
    http://www.islam-guide.com/ch3-10-1.htm

    Jesus Will Descend at the End of Time
    http://www.islaam.com/Article.aspx?id=77

    http://www.jamaat.net/letters.htm
     
  17. topcatcole

    topcatcole BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 26, 2003
    Washington DC
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    Arsenal FC
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    I think we already have threads for pathetic jealous supernatural beings. Next sock, please.
     
  18. 352klr

    352klr Member+

    Jan 29, 2001
    The Burgh of Edin
    Don't you infidels see what's going on here? Salyal is following the Muslim custom of giving the non-believer a chance to convert. If you do not take the opportunity that he has so mercifully given us, twice, to take the teachings of Muhammed, peace and blessings be upon him, into your heart, then you will be destroyed along with bigsoccer. I don't want that to happen. Please, I beg of you all, turn to Allah. The hour is growing late. Soon, Crimson Salyal will reign fire upon the unbelievers, turning bigsoccer into a river of blood until it no longer exists. There will not be a third chance. Allahu Akhbar.
     
  19. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
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    I really believe there is a school for Wizards.
     
  20. Dr Jay

    Dr Jay BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 7, 1999
    Newton, MA USA
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    I'll make it really simple for you so your research can end...

    They are all false.

    Especially yours. Its really false.

    After you have read my post and understood it fully, you will thank me for enlightening you to a higher plane.

    Carry on.
     
  21. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 10, 2000
    Cincilluminati
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    Los Angeles Sol
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    Philippines
    Nearly all of this, by the way, is entirely true.

    Of course, so are non-Muslim deconstructions on Islam. Outsiders are usually better analysts of religions than adherents.
     
  22. Norsk Troll

    Norsk Troll Member+

    Sep 7, 2000
    Central NJ
    More than one.
     

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