Scandinavian/Nordic non-football thread

Discussion in 'Scandinavia' started by Ceres, Apr 2, 2011.

  1. vifvaf

    vifvaf Member

    Nov 28, 2008
    Norway
    Club:
    Valerenga IF Oslo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
  2. jjkoggan

    jjkoggan Member

    Apr 11, 2008
    Kanskje du har rett, but other factors include the higher proportion of minority race citizens who are employed in higher risk jobs and generally have poorer health that leads to a higher prevalence of comorbidties and lastly discriminatory practices. If you can correct for those other factors, you might have a convincing case.
     
  3. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    here is a video for you :
     
  4. jjkoggan

    jjkoggan Member

    Apr 11, 2008
    I saw no correction for higher risk jobs and/or stress that minorities face, especially refugees adjusting to a sometimes hostile culture
     
  5. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    #580 Ceres, May 13, 2020
    Last edited: May 13, 2020
    I agree that Danish culture may be a somewhat a self-protective "hostile" culture, much like the Jewish, and so Danes and Jews happily go hand in hand, also during WW2 ... while no Swedish government has any such feelings, Sweden assisted the nazis to ship and send the Norwegian Jews to death camps, but then, not happily, but under great pressure from Denmark and the 7,500 men 'Danforce' Danish Brigade staying in Sweden, took in the Danish Jews, also knowing that the nazi's surely were going to lose the war.

    Sweden do not ask their refugees and immigrants to adjust to the native culture, but as in the SAS ad that was earlier posted, try to postulate that there is no such thing as native Swedish culture, and so no adjusting is needed, except from the native population. Of cause it's all a lie that unfortunately help refugees and immigrants to not adjust but deliberately stay in ghettos where they do not need to listen or adjust to Swedish laws, culture or any kind of advise from the authorities.

    If we believed the same to be the case in the USA where dark skinned Americans are dying from corona virus in huge numbers, then that would be cultural racism, thinking that they are not as clever and well adjusted to help or save themselves as white Americans. In Denmark non-western dark skinned people and their children "only" get infected twice as much than the average Dane, But then they are also more willing to listen to the advise from authorities, at least to some extend, because they have to, if they want to be able to live here.
     
  6. jjkoggan

    jjkoggan Member

    Apr 11, 2008
    Not so long ago there were some immigrants that came from scandinavia who didn't want to integrate into american society. They formed ethnic enclaves mostly in rural america, built their own schools and churches, published their own newspapers and got upset when their children spoke english so they could avoid losing their prized culture by integrating with the natives... Imagine that!
     
  7. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark

    Well, I care not for the color of people, if they are white or not, I love immigrants from all over the place that being Indians or from Vietnam, but people who believe in islam and non-muslims as subhumans, who can be robbed, abused, raped and our word to have no value, and so will not mix with out culture or respect any laws or advise they may get, because they want us dead if we do not accept and join their "religion" and culture. It's as simple as that and it has nothing to do with racism and color of skin, but only to do with a cult that do not respect free choice, freedom of speech, human rights or equal rights. I only have a problem with people inviting and granting a racist culture into a country that want to eliminate peoples rights, though they think that they will adjust, which is never going to happen, just as it has never happened elsewhere in history.. As for the color of skin I agree 100% with Morgan Freeman :

     
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  8. jjkoggan

    jjkoggan Member

    Apr 11, 2008
    Are all Muslims the same?
     
  9. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    No, but Islam in every shape is all the same, no matter how people may try to sugarcoat or make excuses for it.
     
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  10. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    As for the Coronavirus, it worries me that media and politicians only seem to keep focus on the number of dead ... because there are some doctors and specialists here in Denmark who are now warning about it's side effects. One thing that makes this virus different from all the rest is, that it keeps people sick for several weeks and not only days, and while doing so it randomly prey on your body's preexisting weaknesses, that being any kind of unnoticed weakness you may have with your heart, liver, lungs, kidneys and so forth.

    75 to 80% of people who end up in ventilators die or become brain damaged according to the doctors working in that field. While a normal virus would keep you 3-4 days in a ventilator you need 2 to 6 weeks in a ventilator and at max capacity, and then slowly see damage to their internal organs, so people do not really die of lack of oxygen, as you are told by the media, but die of kidney, liver or heart failure and blood clots, or become "vegetables". These doctors also fear that we have only seen the top of the iceberg, because infected people who are not in need of ventilators are still often sick for several weeks and will suffer future problems with their internal organs and with blood clots.
     
  11. jjkoggan

    jjkoggan Member

    Apr 11, 2008
    Even progressive Islam that supports women's and LGBTQ rights?
     
  12. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    #587 Ceres, May 15, 2020
    Last edited: May 15, 2020
    I started my study of Islam back in 2006, during the Muhammed cartoon riots all over the Middle East,.not only a study of the Quran, but also the Tafsir and Hadith, it's history in general and why the vast majority of muslims (the Sunni) hate the Shia minority and the other way around.

    There is no LGBT or equal rights for women anywhere to find in islam or the muslim world, where a woman is only worth half of that of a man, both culturally speaking but also according to the Quran and Islamic law. Likewise homosexuality is either not legal, with the risk of either death penalty, imprisonment, flogging or at the very least threats of violence and official censorship.

    It's different with transgender people and cross-dressing, though mainly in Shia Iran where homosexuality is punishable by death, but the government on the other hand provides some financial assistance for a possible sex change, they see as some kind of "cure". But this is just yet another absurdity in the oppressive ideology of the cult of Islam. perhaps because there are some hadith that point to the prophet receiving revelations while dressed in his his young wife Aisha's garments. But do not be fooled, transgender people have little to no rights in an Islamic court of law, even if they may be tolerated to some extend... Equal rights do not exist in Islam, neither culturally or by law. It never did and never will, because it's against it's core ideology, so in reality there is no such thing as progressive Islam, because it's core principles reject equal rights.
     
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  13. vifvaf

    vifvaf Member

    Nov 28, 2008
    Norway
    Club:
    Valerenga IF Oslo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    Two days until our National day.
    The preschool kids and kindergarten kids has created their own parades today with small groups .






    Norwegian patriotism kids in Norway learn .
    United and true until Dovre falls!



    Now also a dance the kids learn through the children's tv and the national children's channel .
     
  14. jjkoggan

    jjkoggan Member

    Apr 11, 2008
  15. vifvaf

    vifvaf Member

    Nov 28, 2008
    Norway
    Club:
    Valerenga IF Oslo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    Not the 17 man we are used to . But people have been very inventive .

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    The King took a drive through Oslo. He also took time to visit the hospital to say thank you for the effort of the healthcare workers

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  16. vifvaf

    vifvaf Member

    Nov 28, 2008
    Norway
    Club:
    Valerenga IF Oslo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
  17. vifvaf

    vifvaf Member

    Nov 28, 2008
    Norway
    Club:
    Valerenga IF Oslo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
  18. vifvaf

    vifvaf Member

    Nov 28, 2008
    Norway
    Club:
    Valerenga IF Oslo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    #593 vifvaf, May 22, 2020 at 6:22 PM
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