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Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by eubh223, Aug 8, 2009.

  1. eubh223

    eubh223 New Member

    Feb 4, 2007
    Irvine, CA
  2. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. GOALSeattle

    GOALSeattle Member

    Oct 13, 2007
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. JacksonJazz#9

    JacksonJazz#9 Member

    Dec 12, 2000
    Grand Ledge, Mich
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 08.08.2009

    Amazing the support the Sounders are getting in Seattle... what exactly are the Sounders and Toronto FC doing that the other clubs are not doing?
     
  5. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Re: 08.08.2009

    Being new. The same thing is happening in Philly and will happen in Vancouver and Portland. That and marketing to 18 - 34 white males and not to soccer moms like the rest of MLS.
     
  6. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 08.08.2009

    Being new didn't bring out 30,000 a game in Houston or Salt Lake. Or any of the other MLS teams. There's something else. Maybe Toronto and Seattle are just different. Maybe marketing to the young males is the difference.

    Here's hoping that Philly is as successful as Seattle and Toronto.
     
  7. flippin269

    flippin269 Member+

    Aug 3, 2003
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 08.08.2009

    They focused on building atmosphere in their stadiums first and marketing an entertaining environment instead of trying to get a quick buck. The goal was to build ticket demand instead of just selling tickets. It also helps that they have an urban mindset instead of a suburban.

    One team that does have a suburban mindset but deserve honorable mention though is Real Salt Lake. They haven't had less than 16,000 since April, and have been drawing well against teams who do not necessarily have strong road-attendance numbers. They're also doing something right. They're well on their way to averaging over 17,000 by the end of the season at their rate.
     
  8. JacksonJazz#9

    JacksonJazz#9 Member

    Dec 12, 2000
    Grand Ledge, Mich
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 08.08.2009

    well lets hope that the new expansion teams spend some time in Seattle and Toronto to see what they can steal in ideas and new thoughts for the start of their season.

    im wondering how Philly is going to do... a lot of sports choices in Philly.. while in Seattle, they have the M's and Seahawks... philly has Flyers, eagles, 6ers, phillies... hopefully the SoB's already have a strong foothold in the city to make the experience exciting and fun that more than soccer parents and the AYSO team want to come and watch a game and walk on the field after. that the hard core soccer fanatics come out and keep coming out.
     
  9. Buckscounty Mark

    Dec 6, 2006
    Quakertown, Pa
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 08.08.2009

    Yeah we are making it a experience. The SoB's have some rep in the city. Many soccer friendly types are aware. I experienced first hand from the parking lot attendant that saw my Union shirt and began asking me questions about the team. Even, going as far as to suggest a DP for us. Another time, in my SoB gear some inner city Catholic school let out. Several kids in the group shouted " go Union ".
     
  10. Johnny B

    Johnny B New Member

    Oct 4, 2008
    New Jersey
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Re: 08.08.2009

    Two words..

    Drew Carey.

    Who doesn't like the Price is Right?

    You want 30,000 fans every home game?

    The answer: get a loveable, chubby game show host on your ownership board.
     
  11. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Re: 08.08.2009

    imo, it's not so much the urban mindset, it is the urban reality of those clubs that plays a significant/beneficial role.

    the physical location of BMO Field and Qwest Field greatly aids the the work that those organizations do in attracting and holding onto fans.

    coming into MLS in year 11 or 14 is coming into a "known" and "desirable" MLS and in many ways is a feasible task (if done and approached properly/wisely as TFC and SS have). clubs in the league since year 1 or year 3 had a bit of a different hill to climb (by joining the unknown and risky start-up MLS).

    but certainly the additions of clubs like TFC and Seattle have done well for themselves, and they have been able to build on the back of the product that is MLS. (that, and the unique demand for "top flight domestic league soccer" in those new markets and the downtown physical structures in which to play the matches, attract crowds, and build/display a great atmosphere have made TFC and Seattle what they are -- and these clubs, and other new expansion clubs can/will help drive/push the league forward, hopefully).
     
  12. tritown

    tritown New Member

    Dec 8, 2008
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 08.08.2009

    Good points, tab5g. MLS as of 2009 and beyond is quite a different deal than in 2005 and 2006.

    I like how the Union are getting so much reception in Philly. They should be like Salt Lake (but apparently better) as in having a suburban location but still with great support.
     
  13. ImissTHEheat

    ImissTHEheat Member

    Jan 18, 2009
    Pennsylvania
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 08.08.2009

    Chester is actually a neighboring city. Its not the suburban setting one would imagine. No, its not in downtown Philadelphia, but its still in quite an urban area.

    And there is supposedly a total of 400 million dollars or something being invested in the Chester waterfront in the area of the stadium to build apartment buildings, shopping, restaurants, etc.

    Season tickets also supposedly are approaching 9,500 of 16,000 available packages sold.
     
  14. flippin269

    flippin269 Member+

    Aug 3, 2003
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 08.08.2009

    To be fair, Sandy, Utah population is around 88,000, while Chester, Penn. is more around 40,000. Chester though is in close proximity to multiple big cities, whereas Sandy is surrounded by, um, salt and pepa...
     
  15. JacksonJazz#9

    JacksonJazz#9 Member

    Dec 12, 2000
    Grand Ledge, Mich
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 08.08.2009

    is Richard Dawson busy?
     
  16. soccermilitant

    soccermilitant Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    St.paul
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 08.08.2009

    Luck
     

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