San Diego USL (potential) expansion thread

Discussion in 'USL Expansion' started by msilverstein47, Apr 27, 2009.

  1. SteveUSSF_ref8

    United States
    Oct 25, 2010
    Sun City, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But the idea that most people are thinking that Soccer City is dear, scares me. The idea alone may turn support to SDSU campus west proposal.
     
  2. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of course SoccerCity has to pass, and it’s support was already wavering before SDSU presented its apparently pretty viable (and comparable) plan that had one thing SoccerCity always should have had for a city this size... a 35,000 seat stadium. One capable of hosting MLS and expandable should the NFL come back no less.
     
  3. Threeke

    Threeke Member

    Feb 26, 2016
    I think that MLS teams should definitely have u23 teams, but I don't think those should be fully professional. If you use England as an example, the PL2 (Premier League 2) is a u23 league of the top ranked Academies from across the entire coutnry. (see here).

    Yes several of those teams are full Premier League teams, but their Academy classification doesn't stem from where the senior team plays.

    Second and Third Division leagues are fully professional around most of the world. Youth/Reserve leagues are separate. I don't want to see MLS 2 teams in the USL D2 or D3. Extend the PDL season to a full season like the pros play.

    This is likely already on course to happen in the next 3-4 years anyway. Check this out: https://www.soccernation.com/exclusive-usl-president-jake-edwards/

    Edwards says and implies all across this interview that there is more coming from USL.
     
  4. Blando13

    Blando13 Member+

    Dec 4, 2013
    Lee's Summit, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's fine, but the reason MLS is wanting these teams to be professional is so they can sign young talent to professional contracts and get compensated if these players end up going to Europe. They're some top talent (18 year olds) to Europe because they haven't had a way to sign them to professional contracts and get them minutes (they were ready to be signed, but not ready for MLS level of play). Either way, it's likely not to change.
     
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  5. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder what the drop dead date to make the jump is for 1904
     
  6. Threeke

    Threeke Member

    Feb 26, 2016
    I doubt there is a drop dead deadline for them to switch leagues. Probably more of a logistics burden to lock in dates for their season. Their USD plan is only through the summer and their Oceanside Stadium won't be ready for a while. I think if they switch leagues they push their on-field debut to 2019.
     
  7. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oside Stadium is scheduled to be completed by years’ end and they have Torero thru 2018. So it’s not like they can’t start next year as they’ve been planning for. The issues will be league logistical, which would be the true drop dead date I mentioned. Given how late USL schedules come out though they may have a few months yet to make the 2018 jump.
     
  8. Threeke

    Threeke Member

    Feb 26, 2016
    They don't have Torero through the end of 2018. They have it through the NASL Spring Season. There is certainly a deadline for competing in the 2018 season. Probably late January.

    Oceanside is on target for 2019. The permitting process is underway now from what I understand.
     
  9. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nope they announced they have Torero through the 2018 season, spring and fall. Oceanside is still a go for 2019. Originally they were saying spring but that got modified.
     
  10. Threeke

    Threeke Member

    Feb 26, 2016
    Link?
     
  11. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Its over in the SD NASL thread.

    You are correct that originally they were only saying spring season before the move to Oceanside, but more recently they modified that and got a full year from USD.
     
  12. Threeke

    Threeke Member

    Feb 26, 2016
  13. Threeke

    Threeke Member

    Feb 26, 2016
  14. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well understandable they’d be slow on the stadium... they’re still trying to figure out if they have a league. They’ve been very clear it’s D2 or bust for them. A and there’s no guarantee USL lets them in as we know. I’d imagine the stadium will be stalled until that works out.

    As for the 10 news item, looks like a confirmation to me in absence of anything contrary.
     
  15. EPJr

    EPJr Member+

    Mar 21, 2009
    Richmond VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    so is 2018 USL San Diego dead or just deferred to 2019
     
  16. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If there is a USL San Diego it seems likely deferred.
     
  17. Threeke

    Threeke Member

    Feb 26, 2016
    Guess I wasn't tooooo far off.
     
  18. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    CoronaOrange and 2in10 repped this.
  20. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Come on you're talking about a group that named their team after a ridiculous joke from a movie. I have little confidence that they know anything they are doing is correct.
     
  21. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What movie?
     
  22. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anchorman and yes I know the real story behind the name and use of 1904. I've lived in San Diego before and had heard it a few times. It was a joke.
     
  23. hipityhop

    hipityhop Member

    New Mexico United
    United States
    Jan 10, 1999
    Mission TX
    Club:
    SønderjyskE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I expect any team in San Diego to be in a fly by night league, or NASL.
     
  24. MoreCowbell

    MoreCowbell New Member

    Force FC
    United States
    Jan 31, 2018
    That was a good read
     
  25. oneeyedfool

    oneeyedfool Member+

    Nov 17, 2012
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was actually Albion SC - were looking at NASL and USL in the past. Currently still interested in going pro. Landscape is obviously a mess right now.
     

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