San Antonio Now the US' 8th Largest City

Discussion in 'MLS: Expansion' started by Mr Fish, Jun 24, 2004.

  1. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Member

    Feb 2, 1999
    W. Orange <-> NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. bordelais7

    bordelais7 Member

    May 13, 2003
    Centreville, VA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    "At around 1.7 million in population, the San Antonio metropolitan area remains far smaller than that of the Dallas-Fort Worth region, which stands at about 5.6 million and is climbing heartily."
     
  3. bright

    bright Member

    Dec 28, 2000
    Central District
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not really bigger than Dallas in terms of overall metropolitan area. From the article:
    But I like San Antonio as an MLS city, too.

    - Paul
     
  4. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Member

    Feb 2, 1999
    W. Orange <-> NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Makes the Burn's average attendance of 7,964 seem even more sad.
     
  5. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You don't really want to start comparing attendances compared to market size, Mr. I-Live-In-A-Metro-Area-With-20-Million-People.
     
  6. Gioca

    Gioca Member

    Jun 13, 2004
    Hartford
    Club:
    US Città di Palermo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's a good one, the 8th largest city, San Antonio!!!

    Either that or you've been hitting the crack a little too often.
     
  7. BurnSC89

    BurnSC89 New Member

    Jun 2, 2004
    Cameron, TX
    It would make a nice cross-state derby though. What sucks is that Dallas, Austin, and Houston are all about as the same distance away from where I live, so I don't get a cut in drive time.
     
  8. houston_fc

    houston_fc Member

    Nov 22, 2003
    Houston, TX
    So if you're saying that San Antonio should get an MLS team just because of its population size, then shouldn't Houston, Philadelphia, Phoenix, and San Diego get one frist since they have larger populations than San Antonio? Not quite. Not a very good arguement.
     
  9. Gioca

    Gioca Member

    Jun 13, 2004
    Hartford
    Club:
    US Città di Palermo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    San Antonio's borders are as wide as some states altogether.
     
  10. BurnSC89

    BurnSC89 New Member

    Jun 2, 2004
    Cameron, TX
    Its in Texas. What do you expect?
     
  11. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, I can think of one major Texas city that didn't annex out the wazoo when they had the chance.

    It's a pretty big reason why they're now dropped to #3 in population in the state.
     
  12. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    Phoenix first. They just passed Phili to claim being the 5th largest city in the US and have 3.4m in their metro.
     
  13. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Member

    Feb 2, 1999
    W. Orange <-> NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank you all for your supportive comments (comments, anyway ;) ), especially from the Texans out there.

    Living in NJ, the notion that SA is 8th in terms of city population (at least as far as the US Census Bureau looks at things) took me a little bit by surprise.

    Do Houston, Philly, San Diego, and Phoenix deserve MLS clubs? Of course they do! San Antonio, has a few things, however, that make the city an attractive expansion candidate as well:

    1) SA has few pro sports teams competing for the family entertainment dollar, unlike HOU, PHI, PHX and SD.
    2) SA has a mayor that is actually courting MLS.
    3) SA has a temporary stadium solution where MLS can be the primary tenant.
    4) SA has a strong hispanic population (yes, I know other candidate cities do as well).

    Enjoy your afternoon.
     
  14. Bill Schmidt

    Bill Schmidt BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 3, 2003
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The important number is the size of the TV market. That's defined by the number of people (technically TV households, but it's a similar number) within broadcast range from the center. That also usually coincides with the reasonable driving distance to where the stadium would be. In that respect, San Antonio is ranked 37th. Dallas is 7th, and Houston is 11th. Maybe when the TV market studies are updated, they will reflect the census growth and boost San Antonio as high as 32nd, though that would be a close to unprecedented growth in one year for a market already in the 30s.

    http://www.tvjobs.com/cgi-bin/markets/market2.cgi
     
  15. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Member

    Feb 2, 1999
    W. Orange <-> NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks, Cobblestone. Interesting that press reports have Salt Lake City (36th on the list, one ahead of SA) as a very strong candidate for the 2nd 2005 franchise.
     
  16. Blitzz Boy

    Blitzz Boy Member

    Apr 4, 2002
    The West Side
    Someone like me who is lobbying (or at least posting on message boards) in favor of an MLS franchise in the state that is near the bottom in terms of per capita income should not throw stones at San Antonio's business climate.

    But if I understand correctly, San Antonio is a Company Town and that Company is the US Air Force. Sure, the US Air Force is probably not going to go bankrupt any time soon or lay off all their employees and outsource everything to Bangalore or Shenzen.

    But does San Antonio have enough corporate sponsors to support an MLS team?
     

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