Sam's Army: Poss. New Merchandise (Scarves)

Discussion in 'USA Men: Fans & Travel' started by The Magpie, Mar 18, 2004.

  1. The Magpie

    The Magpie Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Cambridge, MA
    The United States takes its first step on the "Road to Germany" with a home FIFA World Cup 2006 qualifying match on Sunday, June 13, 2004 against CONCACAF opponent Grenada, and Sam's Army plans to be there every step of the way.

    As part of the upcoming qualifying effort, Sam's Army is considering the production of new merchandise, initially a special, limited (150 units) production run of scarves as an offering to proud supporters of the United States National Soccer Team(s).

    You may find information about the effort (including the proposed design) here:

    http://www.sams-army.com/index.php?Mlist=content_full&Article_id=187

    FYI,

    The Magpie
     
  2. cpwilson80

    cpwilson80 Member+

    Mar 20, 2001
    Boston
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very cool -- count me in for a pre-order
     
  3. sch2383

    sch2383 New Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    I would get one and a few of my family members might as well.
     
  4. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd probably get one (well, almost for sure), but I like the one Zohn is holding a lot better.

    Just my personal opinion, nothing more.
     
  5. The Magpie

    The Magpie Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Cambridge, MA
    Hey, I'd much rather have a critical opinion rather than no opinion; believe me when I say it's actually appreciated.

    As indicated in the note on Sams-army.com, the sooner we get a sense of interest in this (and it looks pretty good to this point), the sooner we can get set-up for pre-orders.

    I've bought a few scarves from SportScarf.com and the quality's right up there with any scarf you'd buy overseas. Even better, as opposed to the old SA scarves, the response and turnaround time on shipping should go much more quickly than was previously the case.

    There's been a demand for new merchandise for some time, and some dedicated individuals are investing in this effort to help bring this about.

    As things stand now we look in pretty good shape, but if you haven't voted yet then please do. If everything looks good then perhaps by the end of next week we'll have ordering information on-line at Sam's Army.com

    The Magpie
     
  6. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Evan,
    I think this is both a great idea - and a bad idea.

    Sam's Army suffers from the impression that it is cliquish and exclusionary. Limiting sales of this cheap and generic scarf would be very shortsighted. "Look what I have, but you don't - and can't get". I think limiting sales to a single event (like the World Cup) scarf are fine, but this puppy is a great looking thing and Sam's Army should not put an artificial cap on how many will be made. Don't make it exclusive - or market it that way.

    Nice design. - Oh and the Copyright on Wade's photo should read 2002, not 2004 if you can pass that along to Mark Wheeler.
     
  7. The Magpie

    The Magpie Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Cambridge, MA
    Andy,

    You make some good points.

    The limit of sales to 150 units represents the minimum order SportScarf.com will take to process an order. Should those units sell out, there should be enough money to purchase more, and that's the end goal of this effort - generating enough money to introduce some new merchandise, that's exclusively what any money will be used for.

    BTW: Photo copyright has been changed.

    The Magpie
     
  8. jamison

    jamison Member

    Sep 25, 2000
    NYC
    Funny, I always thought of it as the opposite. Taking that scarf for example, it is nice, but a bit generic. Kind of like a lot of sammers. They show up, wear red...then what? Helluva of a barbeque in the lot before the game, but it's not the Andouilie Sausage supporters club, is the USMNT supporters club. Put the spatula down, get in there, and scream your face off.

    I'm a member, buy a ticket in the section at US games, I'm very glad it's there, but to me (and my friends who sit around and discuss this topic beyond all possible reason anytime a USA game pops up), it's always been that Sam's Army is so big, you can't get songs going or sustained because for every person that wants to sing, you have 9 guys wearing souvenir merchandise and holding a guiness who- while they stand up all game- don't really care to exert themselves vocally.

    But, that's not Sam's Army fault, just a mindset that needs to grow inside the heads of members. It's not that it should be smaller, it should be a larger group all willing to take our game to the next level.

    And, this thread is moving decidely off topic. Sorry about that. (note, I haven't designed a scarf, so I should shut the hell up about the design. It's a good one, just not great. I understand the idea behind it, but it's not a very dynamic design. Sort of a cut and paste americana. The one ethan is holding is a bit more unique to the club, just my $ .02.).
     
  9. nyrmetros

    nyrmetros Member

    Feb 7, 2004
    Any plans for a new SA window cling?
     
  10. The Magpie

    The Magpie Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Cambridge, MA
    Any plans for a new SA window cling?

    Not that I'm aware of. To this point this is a one-off merchandising effort, albeit being used to raise enough $$$ to provide seed money for future ventures.

    Jamison - I whole-heartedly agree: there are a great many in Sam's Army who fit the profile as suggested, but it has to be understood that there are several others who necessarily don't, so one needs be careful in painting the organization with so wide a brush. It's a new qualifying campaign and hopefully there will be enough new blood from a supporters standpoint to be more vocal, to be more supportive, but in a fashion that's cohesive, consistent, and effective.

    BTW: Looks like the plan to produce scarves is a go. I'll make sure to post the pertinent information here once everything's set up to accept pre-paid orders.

    The Magpie
     
  11. nyrmetros

    nyrmetros Member

    Feb 7, 2004
    Any updates on SA merchandise?
     
  12. galaxyfan03

    galaxyfan03 Member

    Jul 4, 2001
    Glendale, California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just checked out the link, for the new design.

    VERY impressive!!! I will DEFINITELY buy one, perhaps two.

    CAN'T WAIT 'til they're available!!!
     

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