salyer?

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  1. banbaseball

    banbaseball Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    East of the Bay
    i heard mentioning that he might have taken part in the lottery, but there's no word on whether or not you guys signed him. anybody know his status. i know he showed some good stuff on the chile trip according to 3rd degree.
     
  2. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. stopper4

    stopper4 Member

    Jan 24, 2000
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bye-bye, Bussey? Or Behnke, I guess.

    Anyone want to speculate on which 3 teams are interested?

    My take:

    Burn
    Smurfs
    Whiz
     
  4. TexanSoccer06

    TexanSoccer06 New Member

    Smurfs? I would think SJ and Clb would be interested, as they could both desparately use a left back.
     
  5. Viking64

    Viking64 Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    Tarheel State
    I don't get the lottery part, was he not in the draft and everyone passed on him? I mean, if you could have drafted him and didn't, why should you get another chance at him?

    I thought he was draft-eligible and no one took him.

    I am biased, I know. He's been playing with the Burn and done well, they've invested the time in him giving him games in Chile that other players could have had.

    But if he was not eligible to be picked in the draft, then yes, the lottery is logical.
     
  6. stopper4

    stopper4 Member

    Jan 24, 2000
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Smurfs = San Jose (look at their home uniforms)

    Ok, I'll by Columbus. I guess Salyer would be an upgrade over Eric Denton.


    Salyer was not available in the draft. I guess the arguement was because he had been a pro in Germany. Then again, Twellman was in the college draft the year before.
     
  7. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Salyer had not signed with MLS, which is why he was not draftable.

    He has signed or is about to sign with MLS...
    At which point he will be offered around the league... If only one team asks for him... done deal. if multiple ask, then you get the lottery.

    The Burn have some 'interest' but as always price and roster may complicate things.
     
  8. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    Buzz, everyone talks about Sayler as a "left back", but isn't he right footed? Didn't he just play left back for the U-20s because he was the best option they had? In other words, can he play either side well?

    Quakes could use a right back more then a left one.

    I think Bussey would fit more with the Quakes. Perhaps they should talk with Dallas and do some kind of deal. If SJ wins, Sayler's traded to Dallas for Bussey. If Dallas wins, Bussey is traded to SJ for a draft pick (and Sayler has his spot on the roster). Both teams get what they want....
     
  9. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    Hmmm....wouldn't DC United be interested? They wanted DiGi and lost him in the lotto to the Metros. Any bets on if Hudson would try for Sayler????

    If they enter, you'd have to like their chances in a weighted lottery. Tell me again, how did they get Stewart?
     
  10. terp fan

    terp fan New Member

    Nov 21, 2000
    About done?

    I would think most teams are about set on the roster numbers by now. I assume Salyer wouyld be a full roster player and not a developmental player based on the money he would demand. Phil is a left footed player but pretty good with both and played left back and midfield while at UMD.
     
  11. johnaldo9

    johnaldo9 New Member

    May 2, 2002
    uhhh... how do you think a weighted lottery works? Do you really think its a surprise when the team with the worst record wins? Its only a surprise when the Metroscum usually win when they don't have the worst record, I wonder how that happens

    I also dont think that Stewart was placed in a lottery. MLS pretty much asked him where his preference was, which was DC, and then allocated him to DC. I really don't think that we wil enter the lottery for Salyer, DC wanted Digi to back up Convey at Left Mid. We look pretty much set in the back.
     
  12. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Salyer played left back at Maryland and with all the youth National Teams. But he is RIGHT footed. I asked him about it. Most teams he played on needed a left back so he got put there, but he is right footed.

    Most of the Chile trip he played right back. He did play left back some, and when he did so I liked him much better. Philip is the opposite of Bussey. He is not a fantastic athlete with amazing speed. Salyer instead gets buy on tactical understanding and soccer savvy. Which is why he looks better at left back than right... experience is everything i his case. He is very good at keeping the shape, reading the game, anticipation and breaking up plays. He is a good passer and is solid on the ball. A better threat going forward on the left than the right... again due to experinece most likely.

    AND he could be a developmental player if/ and only if every team in MLS passes on him as a full roster player. Which I think may be unlikely.
     
  13. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    I know Dallas is home and all, but if I'm him the last thing I want is to play at Dallas. I mean, where is this kid gonna play. Left back? Only, and maybe not even then, if Broome and Gbandi are not available. I mean, I like Phil's game but physically, he doesn't have the tools to beat out Broome's speed and Gbandi's speed and strength.

    That leaves right back. Suarez moving to the middle makes this more of an option but you've got to figure that if T-Bone's not playing well or is unavailable, MJ's first move will be to slot Behncke or Shavar into the middle and play Suarez at right back. So, Salyer is gonna be stuck on the depth chart there, too and that's not even taking Bussey into the equation.

    Again, from a playing perspective, I really think Salyer would be better off on another team. And, for that matter, I'm not sure why, given their current roster, why the Burn would want him. The only way I see it from MJ's perspective is if acquiring Salyer allows him to move a player like Bussey for a future draft pick. Otherwise, it doesn't make much sense.

    And please, don't take this as a slight on Salyer. I like Phil's game and I liked watching him play at Maryland for 2 years. He's smart, very good on the ball and versatile. On an 18-man roster, he's the kind of player you want to have.... Just not Dallas' 18-man roster.
     
  14. Scipio Gothicus

    Aug 6, 2001
    Cabo San Lucas
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jeffries should not worry about the depth chart. If the Burn have a chance to get Salyer, there should not be an instant of hesitation. And Shavar should be signed as well.

    This would mean that Behncke and Bussey would have to be cut. Who is better, in the long and short run, for the team?
     
  15. Alex Sanz

    Alex Sanz New Member

    Apr 6, 2000
    TX
    3rd degree said Shavar is signed. That leaves Sayler to be signed. Get it done!
     
  16. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    3rd Degree,

    You mentioned in one of your reports from Chile that you planned to put together a status report on each player and sum up your thoughts on the team going into the season.

    Has the status report already been posted at your website, or is this something we can look forward to seeing sometime soon?

    Thanks.
     
  17. BurnGlorious

    BurnGlorious New Member

    Jun 27, 2002
    McKinney, TX
    Why is everyone so down on Behncke? I think I would rather have him than Salyer or Bussey.

    His height can be a big asset both in the back and coming forward on corner kicks, etc.

    He played extremely well for both Atlanta and Milwaukee last year and was a big key to Milwaukee's A-League title game victory.

    I think the guy is almost a young Steve Morrow and could benefit greatly from more mentoring from Morrow.

    I say keep 'im.
     
  18. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am still working on it. I have been swamped with work since I got back... it will be out this week I hope.
     
  19. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Shavar is signed. No one has to be cut for him...
    If Salyer is signed as a full roster player he would require a cut... or something else.
     
  20. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    done...

    http://www.3rddegree.net/
     
  21. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Excellent.

    Thanks for all the hard work you put in to keep us Burn fanatics informed.
     
  22. gotyourback

    gotyourback Member

    Jul 18, 2002
    Aurora/Arlington
    Yes, I was quite content with your opinion on ROB and the 'situation' at right-mid.

    Spells good bait to me, but maybe not to management.
     
  23. JoeW

    JoeW New Member

    Apr 19, 2001
    Northern Virginia, USA
    I imagine it's theoretically possible DCU could be interested in Salyer but I tend to doubt it. Digi was projected as a left outside mid by DCU. Convey will have national team callups plus the youth WC (now moved to the early fall--late MLS season and playoffs, bad timing!). DCU wanted Digiamarino from the git-go. Part of his value was his speed.

    My understanding is that Salyer is more of a defender (which DCU feels relatively comfortable with). I've heard no rumors or hints that DCU would be interested in him. If so, it would only be b/c of his ability to help at D-mid. Even then, he was in DCU's camp earlier and Hudson didn't express interest.

    I also think Columbus wouldn't be interested. Denton and Garcia. I'd think SJ would want to consider being part of a lottery though.
     
  24. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree on DC.
    The reason people mention Cbs is becasue they actaully brought Salyer in for a trial a month ago or so...

    I imagine we will find out soon enough.
     
  25. wu-tang beez

    wu-tang beez New Member

    Apr 19, 2002
    Irving, TX
    had the privilege of conversing w/ someone very close to him @ the open practice, he's hoping for a developmental slot. There were paperwork problems, so he couldn't enter the draft like TT. Suddenly, I find myself routing for the kid.

    BTW the burn had Gbandi starting at left back & he looked very comfortable. Bussey's got skills. I saw EJ waiting for Rhine outside the locker room w/ Tonya Harding and a lead pipe.
     

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