is it true that the revs have salary cap problems? i hope not then we will have to get rid of top players. i wouldn't mind shiping out joe max he was nothing but injured last season but hopfully not this season.
I hope we let go of Reis. He was not such a great backup last season and i believe he has a pretty decent salary. Also, get rid of both JMM and Fabbro, they will not see any play time and will affect our cap and international situations. I would assume that Cullen is done as well.
I don't think that Cullen makes a lot, and he's a decent backup. I doubt we'll get more value for the money if we replace him.
i think that Cullen did farely well last season. I dont think he scored any goals but he was all over the place and was a good defender. And as for Fabbro im not sure i didn't pay any attention to him as much as the Newbies (cancela,joeseph,noonan and leonard)
I don't know, he was a high draft pick (maybe even #1, by one of the expansion teams) so he probably started out at a pretty high number. Also, all the players get raises every year, so Cullen is more than likely making a good salary by now.
Cullen seems like a game player and a true professional, but IMO is not really MLS caliber anymore. He's smart and skilled, but painfully slow and small. I think you could get a decent young player to cover more ground. He wouldn't have Cullen's smarts, but he'd get to a lot more balls. If cap room has to be cleared, these guys seem like the most apparent choices to me: JMM Fabbro Cullen Reis(?) There's some substantial dinero there. These kinds of decisions are never pretty. But sadly, professional sports is all about "What have you done for me lately". Just my opinion.
I'm pretty sure that Cullen got a pay cut last year, and possibly the year before. As for high draft picks strting out at a pretty high number, I'd refer you to Twellman's original deal...
Fabbro is #1 on my see ya later list I like JMM and think he can still play but he may have to take a pay cut or at least redo his contract with incentives linked to games played. Twellman was also missing a lot of games and nobody is talking about dumping him
Twellman is about 10 years younger than JMM and does not have the history that JMM does when it comes to injuries. This year was just bad luck for him, a freak kick to the face, stress fracture. Why would anyone talk about TNT?
Fabbro had a lot more to do with the Revs success this past season than JMM did - at a fraction of the cost.
Yes, Fabbro is an SI and that may determine his fate here. But I think he was very underestimated, once he got into the flow of the offense. The understanding between Cancela, Fabbro and Noonan resulted in an offense that was able to stay on pace w/o Twellman. Fabbro was excellent in holding the ball, something that Nicol had been searching for since he arrived w/o success. JMM was around the max salary last year. In my mind, he is worth a "risk" of about $100K, tops. I would be shocked to see him swallow a pay cut of more than %50. People keep thinking about what he could do if healthy, but his susceptibility to injury is getting worse, not better. I saw the knock he took at Ludlow that ended up being a season-ending injury. It was a very ordinary play. He couldn't stand up to Premier League play, he can't stand up to MLS play.
I heard the same thing. Cullen took a pay cut last year after a great season at center mid. He's versatile and I believe he can help the Revs off the bench. I say keep him. I thought I heard he made around $40,000 last year. As for JMM, I was under the impression he made around $100,000 last year. I'd hate to see him go as he's my favorite player, but if the Revs are having cap problems, he might have to go. I think Reis has a high salary for a back-up goalie and we could get another (most likely worse) for a lot less.
Not that it matters, but ... when you play like Twellman does, a kick to the face isn't a freak injury, it's inevitable! Twellman has scored some incredibly courageous goals, but if he wants any kind of lasting career he better learn to use a little more caution on his diving headers. I'm sure his buddy Califf would have pulled up if he had seen Twellman going for that ball, but in international or European play he's likely to be "punished" for that kind of play. As for the stress fracture, who knows - it may have come from pushing a minor injury too far?
Even 100,000 is too much for what JMM contributed. I was under the impression that when he returned he was signed at league max.....anyone know for certain?
JMM was around the max salary last year. In my mind, he is worth a "risk" of about $100K, tops. I would be shocked to see him swallow a pay cut of more than %50. ------------------------------------------------ with the money his daddy has he can afford to take a paycut!
Matt Reis does not make a lot of money for a backup, this fact was instrumental in bringing him to NE and fitting him under what was already a tight cap. There aren't any real savings to be had by dropping him.
John, Correct me if I'm wrong, but in terms of Joe-Max's contract, wasn't it true that, while he was making at or close ro league-max last year only a percentage of that was counted against the team cap, the rest deferred until 2004? I.e., JMM will count significantly more against the cap this coming season than last year? The Magpie
To be honest Magpie, I have no idea how Joe-Max's contract was set up. For the most part, the league, the players and their agents do a really good job of keeping salary numbers and terms confidential. The only reason I know anything about Reis' situation is because I once asked a specific question about why it made sense to bring him in when we had a perfectly serviceable backup already. What I was told was that Reis was coming for the exact same salary number as that player and that the specific number was the same as another backup who was in Colorado at the time. When I asked a follow up question about how much that player made in Colorado, I was given the number, I believe, by accident. Having said all that, I think it's a good idea to keep what people make somewhat private, and I would be surprised to hear that Joe-Max actually makes what everyone says he makes. More often than not, when I've gotten exact salary numbers for a player it has not matched the common conception of what that player makes. Does that help at all? No. I didn't think so.
I could be wrong, but I remembering reading somewhere that Joe-Max Moore wanted to come back to New England and would play for $100,000 here, but wanted almost double if he had to go to another team. Anyways, I can't see him making more than twice of what Twellman makes ($100,000 + bonuses for goals?). Maybe Moore has a similar contract?
It could easily happen. Contracts are all about leverage. JMM had some last year, and Twellman had none. Of course this year, unless his contract was guaranteed (pretty unlikely in MLS), he's the one with no leverage after pretty much a wasted season. The reason why I believe he's at or close to the max, is because, if the team is facing cap problems, who's filling it up? OK, Cancela is probably a max contract. - Ralston is probably doing pretty well ($150?, maybe more?). - Brown ($100-125?). - Twellman ($100). - Llamosa ($100 was the figure thrown around last winter) Fabbro? Probably in the next group... then a big drop off with a bunch of guys playing big minutes for moderate pay: Franchino, Pierce, Heaps, Kamler. other economy guys: Cullen, Reis, C. Brown, Jason Moore, D. Kante, Joseph and the woefully underpaid: Leonard, Downing, Singer, etc. I just don't see the big bucks in there unless JMM is pulling down big ones.
you guys are right Someone good will get cut this year and next , and the future Cleveland GM/Coach will probably be able to get that person at a reduced cost and they will have a bone to pick and something to prove both good motivators. I personally think your coach is quite good and will probably get the most out of whose kept and has earned a right to have a say in whose stays(with his performance). I think you d be crazy to let Twellman go. He'll have a big rebound year and in time 2-3 years i think you'll get a nice fee for him (salary room) and an allocation.