Saddam better than America?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by BenReilly, May 17, 2003.

  1. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
  2. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Some Germans said - "we were better off under the Nazis."

    Some Russians still pine for the orderly (but deadly) days of Communism.

    Change takes time. I saw an article today about people welcoming back the #1 Iraqi goalkeeper from the 1980s when Iraq had a decent team. He left when Uday took control and started torturing them for poor performances. It's just a small bit of normalcy in Iraq, but soccer is one thing that unites the various peoples of Iraq.
     
  3. mannyfreshstunna

    mannyfreshstunna New Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    Naperville, no less
  4. AFCA

    AFCA Member

    Jul 16, 2002
    X X X rated
    Club:
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    Those were the days
     
  5. mannyfreshstunna

    mannyfreshstunna New Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    Naperville, no less
    ~typical Frenchman, in regards to Nazi "occupation"
     
  6. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Re: Re: Saddam better than America?

    Few in Iraq would prefer what they're going through now to living under Saddam. We can only hope that things get better.
     
  7. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Re: Re: Re: Saddam better than America?

    He said, knowing first-hand the living conditions in Iraq both under Saddam and now under Allied occupation.
     
  8. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Re: Re: Re: Saddam better than America?

    **Poll conducted by Ben Reilly Research Institute. Results are from a random sample of 1 - Ben Reilly. Contact BRRI with questions or comments if you happen to be:

    A - an Iraqi citizen glad to see Saddam go,
    B - a dead Iraqi citizen glad to see Saddam go,
    C - a yet unborn Iraqi citizen glad to see Saddam go,
    D - a French govt. official looking for a copy of Ben's polling data/methodology
     
  9. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    It's obvious that living conditions are vastly worse. It's not even close. I can't believe the extent people will go to lie to support their positions. This isn't even debatable.

    Let's hope things will get better in the near future, but right now it's a nightmare.
     
  10. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Yeah, too bad the Iraqi people can now live their lives without having to worry about their children being pushed thru a giant plastic shredder to get them to confess to plotting against Saddam. And that whole not having their food money go to building nuclear weapons and presidential palaces thing must suck too.
     
  11. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
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    What, and getting shot by roving gangs is any better? Almost everyone is out of a job, and the few that have them are not getting paid. Iraqis no longer have any say in their government or any say in how their main resource is to be used. What kind of freedom is that?
     
  12. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Yeah, because that's happening to EVERYONE.

    But they're getting free handouts from Allied troops, so it doesn't really matter.

    No longer have any say?? They did under Saddam?? At least now they know they will have a say at some point in the near future.
     
  13. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
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    Saddam's not Iraqi???
     
  14. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
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    > Yeah, because that's happening to EVERYONE.

    So the it isn't the quantity of crime that is important, it is the equality? How egalitarian of you.

    > But they're getting free handouts from Allied
    > troops, so it doesn't really matter.

    Are they really getting enough? When you read something like this about people selling possessions to get a bag of rice I'm not to sure. Something like 2/3 of the grain crop (which should be harvested about now) and most of the vegatable crop has also been destroyed because the lack of electricity leading to the lack of irrigation, which will make the future even worse.

    > No longer have any say?? They did under
    > Saddam??

    Sure it was. Saddam was an Iraqi, and at first the oil wealth was going to improving his nation. Later it went towards a useless war, but even though it was the US that tricked him into fighting it, it was still the choice of the Iraqis to fight Iran. In the last decade, they really did not have that much power over it because we had a near total blockade on Iraq.

    > At least now they know they will have a say at
    > some point in the near future.

    You are only guessing this, and judging by the way the US is behaving, I think it is a poor bet to take.
     
  15. mannyfreshstunna

    mannyfreshstunna New Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    Naperville, no less
    So, is there room on the flag for a 51st state?Why haven't you called? Or are the phones to Halliburton...err, i mean the White House busy?
     
  16. Danwoods

    Danwoods Member

    Mar 20, 2000
    Bertram, TX, US
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    Dear Republican person,

    I have a theory that the Iraqi people are not very worried about plastic shredders or newks right now.

    Sincerely,
    Abraham Maslow
     
  17. biggyv

    biggyv Member

    May 18, 2000
    PGH PA
    Yeah, thank God we found all those nuclear weapons they built. :rolleyes:
     
  18. eric_appleby

    eric_appleby Member+

    Jun 11, 1999
    Down East
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    United States
    No doubt the people finding relatives in mass graves are really missing the good old days of Saddam.

    What a bunch of creeps in this forum.
     
  19. Manolo

    Manolo Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 14, 1997
    Queens, NY
    I don't think the U.S. is any more popular than Saddam was. You don't find mass graves after the U.S. attacks because, generally, our bombs don't leave enough pieces of the bodies to bury.
     
  20. mannyfreshstunna

    mannyfreshstunna New Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    Naperville, no less

    The inabilitly of the pinko marixists to admit that the US didn't target civilians is not surprising. I wish they would just stop posting about said topic.
     
  21. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    > The inabilitly of the pinko marixists to admit that
    > the US didn't target civilians is not surprising.

    You are complaining that people died because of Saddam. Well, people died because of America as well. Intention doesn't matter - they are still dead.
     
  22. Danwoods

    Danwoods Member

    Mar 20, 2000
    Bertram, TX, US
    Club:
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    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Was that during Gulf War 1 as well? Or is that anceint history that does not need to be discussed?
     
  23. Manolo

    Manolo Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 14, 1997
    Queens, NY
    The ability of the nationalist hawks to turn a blind eye to the terrible human cost of war is beyond my comprehension.
     
  24. mannyfreshstunna

    mannyfreshstunna New Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    Naperville, no less

    Blind eye? No I am aware of the terrible human cost of war, which is exactly why war is a last recourse.


    Fabricating stories about US intent to kill iraqi civilians would be your job Rolo.


    And spejic, i am not overlooking the fact that innocents die despite intent. I simply hate people when people make up such monsterous stories.
     
  25. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
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    Except the original quote made no mention of, or allusion to, an intent to kill civilians. It merely observed that the effect of US bombs on bodies was such that a mass grave would, in all probability, prove superfluous.

    You just inserted the non-existent intent because you needed it in order to post the words "pinko marxists" (I mean .... really! Have yourself a LOL)
     

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