I've just been reading the reports of Wednesday's match and it seems Flo was loudly booed by many Irish fans when he was brought on, being an ex Glasgow Rangers player. I'd hoped all this had ended after the Denmark game last year, seems not. The way things are going Landsdowne will not be much better than Windsor Park.
The same thing happened when Claudio Reyna played for the US there last year. The irony is that Reyna and Flo are no longer at Rangers, plus they booed the wrong player at the Denmark game. When will these idiots ever learn? Not only are they bigots, they're stupid as well.
Yes, it's about that time of the week, isn't it? Okay, I've booed Jorge Campos every time he's stepped on the field because of his clubs and national team. Am I a bigot?
Time for people to get on their soap box about an issue that isn't there again, *sigh* I wonder was Manchester Uniteds booing of Ex Liverpool player McManamam also bigoty, because call me stupid, I can't see one difference, not one single difference. But now will come the famous "so called best supporters in the world" routine from someone with nothing better to complain about. While you're at it explaining the macca thing, explain why in the Denmark match we ended up booing our own players? Link that one to bigoty please, I'm in the mood for a laugh.
When Jaap Stam got loudly booed at Lansdowne in September 2001 by the Man U brigade, was that bigoted? An opposition player being booed due to club allegiances. No different. It's simply due to the fact that many Ireland fans have a natural affinity with Celtic. Flo played for their hated rivals. Simple, really. So don't bring any sectarian ************ into it. Giving opposition players stick is part and parcel of football, always has been. If you don't like it, go and follow rugby or something.
I'm not getting on any soapbox, as an Irish fan it depresses me to see our games being used to by Celtic fans to vent their "hated" of former Rangers players. (and that goes for any club teams by the way). They should be there to support our team full stop. Can these fans not leave their allegiences to British clubs at home when they follow Ireland? I wonder was Manchester Uniteds booing of Ex Liverpool player McManamam also bigoty, because call me stupid, I can't see one difference, not one single difference. You can't see the difference?? Start by reading up on Irish history and politics, then read a bit about the Old Firm. Maybe that will help.
Calling someone an Orange Baxtard has a lot of sectarian baggage and should not be part of Football. There was a time when rascist abuse and hooliganism were part and parcel of football too and at the time people used to adopt the same "sure it's all just part of the game... go follow {insert poofy game you want to disparage here}..." I think it would great if Mattie Holland signed for Rangers in the off-season.......... I wonder how the hooped brigade at landsdowne would react to an Irish capt who's a Hun? Not that I can stand Rangers mind you, but I have no time either for those eejits who use games by my country, Ireland, to indulge in their little hate fests. So what happens when the Scottish National team plays at home? Does one half of the crowd boo the Celtic players on their own team and the other half boos the Ranger palyers? For the love of jeeziz, grow up people.
Re: Re: sad So just because there is religious differences between Celtic and Rangers, that makes the booing of ex Rangers players bigoty, despite the fact that it is simply because he used to play for the rival club of most of the supporters in the stadium, the same as McManamam. That's football, if that offends you stay at home, but to call it bigoty is the biggest pile of bs I've read on this board, and I'm well aware of Irish politics and the old firm. I agree that club differences should be left aside, and I disagree with it from that standpoint, but to call it something it's not is a laugh and I'm still waiting for someone to link the booing of our own players V Denmark to bigoty aswell, or for someone to give me one difference between booing you're rivals ex players when it's Rangers and not Liverpool.
Re: Re: Re: sad Firstly, I could be wrong, but I doubt that most Irish fans are also real Celtic fans. A large minority at best. Booing of players at international games is wrong, they are representing their country. This is not club football. It seems most Irish fans don't realise that though as they can't be bothered supporting their own teams and would rather visit Old Trafford, Anfield etc. Secondly, if booing the players of your (foreign) rival club is all OK, then you would have no objection to Celtic players being booed and called Tims/fenians/beggars etc at Windsor Park? In fact, one could argue the whole Neil Lennon affair was not bigoted then, as he did play for the rival of the huge majority of the Windsor faithful. Club before country?
Re: Re: Re: Re: sad We'd never boo our own players, in a serious manner, if they did play for Rangers. If we did, then there would be no excuse, I'd still argue it isn't bigoty but it'd be plain and absolute stupidity. I'd also say that most of them are armchair Celtic fans at best, but they'd still consider themselves supporters, or Celtic as their second club behind 'Pool or Man U. Personally, I don't like Celtic, they bore me most of the time, but that's neither here nor there. I agree bringing club rivalrys to international games is daft, but to call it bigotry is even dafter, but all it is is a bit of a joke at friendlys, and anyone who says otherwise can take a look at the Denmark game (Booing the wrong player, booing our own players, cheering Danish passes ect ect).
It's so unfortunate that the zealots ruin the game for all of us. The problem is that the Celtic brigade hold the rest of the Ireland fans to ransom, the same way the Rangers/Linfield brigade held Northern Ireland fans to ransom for so long. I think the FAI and IFA should create a joint statement condeming all these incidents. Increase da Peace!
wudda ned...holding who to ransom... come off yur box son.Guess the club hops a plane over to Ireland and wakes up all those Irish Tims at 3(at gun point I'm sure?) in the morn to drive god knows how long up to Belfast to get the boat over ,then onto the buses for a long view of the Scottish countryside then to the match and back 0n the buses back on the boat then back in the car and back home at a very ungodly hour...as a guy that has did this trip more then once I say SPEEK FUR YURSELF!!!!!! hail hail !!!!P.S...TAKE A LOOK AT THE IRISH SUPPORT IN KOREA...DID YOU SEE THE HOOPS SURE YOU DID...RANSOM ME BOLLIX?
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Due to several requests, I'm reopening this thread. Remember - no trolling, no flaming, no name calling, no bad language!
Someone mentioned the Neil lennon incident in the same breath as some booing of flo/lovenkrands/reyna etc. Are you mental? The Neil Lennon incident wasnt just booing, if it had just been booing it would have been nothing unexpected, roll right off the players back. Lennon and his family recieved death threats, more than several and serious enough to get the police involved and a picture of a boy hanging with the words R.I.P Neil Lennon over it appeared in Belfast sprayed on a wall or something, thats what all the fuss was about and why Lennon in the end packed in Nothern Ireland. Short memories some people, and I agree this is a whole big kick off about nothing, get over it its nothing malicious, I boo and jeer rangers players playing internationals and ex rangers players at club level all the time and I dont "hate" them or give a flying fook about their religious preferences, they simply played for the huns. End of.
On a related note, it is being reported this morning that Lennon and "a lady friend" were beaten by a gang of men in Glasgow last night. Lennon claimed they hurled sectarian abuse at him.
I think the comparison was between Rangers players being booed at Lansdowne and Celtic players being booed at Windsor, not the loyalist threats to Neil and his family. You say you jeer Rangers players at internationals, so assuming you're Scottish does this means you boo Scotland players?