Sacramento MLS Expansion Superthread

Discussion in 'Sacramento Republic FC' started by 30King, Nov 28, 2013.

  1. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The list was based on the US city having 2+ million. I just noted some of the pops on the other side (Windsor/Tijuana). El Paso is well short.

    Though I do not necessarily think 1+million level cities are out of it. Rochester was considered in the past. Louisville is making some noise. Just no bids from them at the moment.

    And I do think it is interesting that their are 40 US/CAN markets at 2+ million at the moment. Just a good, round number.
     
  2. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Right! With a firm rejection ...
     
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  3. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd expect good news next week. Labor Day at the latest. Beyond that, DOOM!

    Frankly, I do not see another viable bid at this point. Charlotte has work to do. Still.

    They are the new mid-market city MLS will use to try & spur others onward. You guys are in.
     
  4. SierraSpartan

    SierraSpartan Member+

    Jan 25, 2007
    Placer County, CA
    Club:
    Sacramento Republic FC
    ...or it may be that Sacramento has turned into an empty threat. YMMV.
     
  5. Tifoso

    Tifoso Moderator
    Staff Member

    Juventus
    Italy
    Feb 24, 2007
    northern California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Every time that I read that name, I puke a little. Just sayin..
     
  6. mangerson

    mangerson Member+

    Sacramento Republic, San Jose Earthquakes
    Jan 8, 2008
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's the arsenic.
     
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  7. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I do remember growing up in Kansas City in the mid-70s when Kansas City was, briefly, in all four then-major leagues. The metro population was roughly 1.2 million.

    Times have definitely changed.
     
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  8. Cavekicker

    Cavekicker New Member

    Fresno FC
    United States
    Feb 9, 2018
    Fresno, CA
    How about Arsenic Miami? It has a certain ring to it.
     
  9. mangerson

    mangerson Member+

    Sacramento Republic, San Jose Earthquakes
    Jan 8, 2008
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Managed by Arsene Wenger?
     
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  10. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3460 TrueCrew, Aug 23, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2019
    Bills. Saints. Hornets. Grizzlies. Jaguars. Thunder. Packers. And that does not even touch the NHL (Edm, Win, etc).

    Some of those are pretty recent (OKC, Hornets, Jags, Grizz).

    Edit: Though, to your point, they are not in all four. CSAs with 4 (or more) teams in the traditional "big four" leagues & at least one in each:
    1) NY: 9+ 2 MLS
    2) LA: 8 + 2 MLS
    3) DC/BALT: 6 + 1 MLS
    4) SJ/SF/OAK: 6 + 1 MLS
    5) CHI: 5 + 1 MLS
    6) Boston: 4 + 1 MLS
    7) Dallas: 4 + 1 MLS
    8) Philly: 4 + 1 MLS
    9) Miami: 4 + MLS incoming
    10) Toronto: 4 (CFL) + 1 MLS
    11) Minny/St. Paul: 4 + 1 MLS
    12) Denver: 4 + 1 MLS
    -----------
    13) Detroit: 4 + MLS bid
    14) Phoenix: 4 + MLS bid

    Houston & Atlanta go 3/4 and have an MLS team. Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and Tampa go 3/4 and do not have MLS teams, though Tampa is trying.

    2/4 WITH MLS: Seattle (NHL on way for 3/4), Montreal, St. Louis, Charlotte, KC, Vancouver, Cincy, Nashville.
     
  11. SierraSpartan

    SierraSpartan Member+

    Jan 25, 2007
    Placer County, CA
    Club:
    Sacramento Republic FC
    If not MLS, then why not give NWSL a rip?

     
  12. mangerson

    mangerson Member+

    Sacramento Republic, San Jose Earthquakes
    Jan 8, 2008
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hmmmm....
    Then he (Merritt Paulson) got even more specific:

    “One of them’s an MLS team, one of them will be an MLS team, one of them’s a USL team. That’s probably more than I should have said.”

    UPDATE (8/23; 4 p.m. ET): A reliable source confirms that the three ownership groups Paulson is talking about are Louisville City FC, Sacramento Republic FC and Atlanta United FC. Timelines, however, are not yet set in stone. A likely scenario would see the NWSL add one team in 2020 to reach 10 total teams, and then add two teams in 2021 to go to 12 teams. Sacramento looks like the team most ready to join the NWSL next year, as of right now. Expansion talks are inherently fluid and change often. Two new teams would be possible if a current team — Sky Blue FC for example — did not carry on in its current form.
     
  13. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    And shortly afterwards an Atlanta Journal Constitution writer came out and directly contradicted the Atlanta United FC part based on "reliable sources".
     
  14. mangerson

    mangerson Member+

    Sacramento Republic, San Jose Earthquakes
    Jan 8, 2008
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey, two out of three ain't bad.
     
  15. fortunesfool223

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Dec 26, 2013
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3465 fortunesfool223, Sep 3, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2019
    Kevin Nagle wandered into the SacRepublicFC Reddit subforum in the middle of last Saturday night's craptastic performance. I give him props for that, as he caught a lot of flak from some fans. But he also left a few of comments regarding SRFC's status with respect to entry into MLS. Here are a few of his replies to some of the expressed discontent:

    1. "And btw, I agree with you, it’s MLS or we will move on."

    2. "As for MLS? We are deep or deeper than ever in activities. We have been quiet for all the reasons we should be but this is one of those “trust me” responses."

    3. "I would say with respect to MLS-it’s what I attempted to earlier. Things are moving at a very fast clip. I do not see those two cities you mentioned as moving ahead of us but I could not say that about St. Louis when it happened. I feel very good about where we are-in fancy never better."



    I think his frustration is starting show with the "it’s MLS or we will move on" statement.



    These quotes are from an extended conversation. so here is the thread (I will leave the link cold):
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  16. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Better link: https://www.reddit.com/r/SacRepublicFC/comments/cy4j6w/this_is_horseshit/

    I trust only in doom.
     
  17. fortunesfool223

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Dec 26, 2013
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks Knave, i left the link cold because some forums don't like to link to other forums....and i was too lazy to read BSF's rules. :sneaky:
     
  18. SierraSpartan

    SierraSpartan Member+

    Jan 25, 2007
    Placer County, CA
    Club:
    Sacramento Republic FC
    Having read the reddit thread, Mr. Nagle's responses strike me as those of somebody who is no longer completely confident in Sacramento's MLS chances.
     
  19. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They’ve become MLS’s answer to the NFL to LA for most of the last 20 years. Bridesmaid but not bride.
     
  20. SierraSpartan

    SierraSpartan Member+

    Jan 25, 2007
    Placer County, CA
    Club:
    Sacramento Republic FC
    Every league needs one or two. NBA has Seattle and Louisville, NHL has Quebec City and Houston. MLB has Montreal and Charlotte. NFL cashed their big chip in with Los Angeles but still has San Antonio and can conceivably use San Diego.

    I suppose if MLS tires of using Sacramento as a threat, they can move on to Vegas or Phoenix, but that assumes there would be a final determination one way or the other where SRFC is concerned.

    Dooooooom!!!
     
  21. The8000

    The8000 New Member

    Sep 12, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
  22. SierraSpartan

    SierraSpartan Member+

    Jan 25, 2007
    Placer County, CA
    Club:
    Sacramento Republic FC


    (shrug)

    I've actually heard this type of verbiage before.

    When Garber deigns to grace us with his presence at a pre-announced press conference, then I'll start to get excited.
     
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  23. fortunesfool223

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Dec 26, 2013
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3473 fortunesfool223, Sep 6, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2019
    Looks exactly like what Nagle said in the Reddit thread last week. No additional information from SRFC or MLS beyond statements that were made two months ago.



    This "news" has the smell of a wilting flower trying to remain relevant to the bees.
     
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  24. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah this seems premature given Sac has been on the goal line before only to have it move 50 yards away.
     
  25. SierraSpartan

    SierraSpartan Member+

    Jan 25, 2007
    Placer County, CA
    Club:
    Sacramento Republic FC
    Meanwhile, the club has put out a presser, and...



     

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