i took the online test and afterwards, the test was graded and incorrect answers were shown, with the correct answer noted. these answers were very strange. help me out ================================= ? the GK collects the ball from an opponents throw-in, dribbles the ball into his own area, then picks the ball up and throws it down field. choose one answer a DFK, b PK, c IFK or d dropped ball. according to the corrected answer, it is dropped ball. where did that come from? ? a player spits at a teammate. choose an answer a DFK, b PK, c IDK , d dropped ball. corrected answer IDK. the rule book clearly states 'spitting at an opponent or any other person is a sending off offense,' which means red card, and a red card restart is a DFK. right or wrong? ? the LOTG changes and memorandum always take place on 1 July. choose one. T or F. corrected answer F. where does it say that? ========================= a tip for U. do not use the arrow to move the test down. it will change your answers, use the mouse to scroll down only. ===================== thanks rod in AZ
I don't know why the third one is even on there, but (unless I'm an idiot) those first two answers are wrong. I have no idea where the drop ball decision would come from...that's extremely weird, probably a mistake. As for spitting at a teammate, I'm fairly certain that while giving a red card is correct, the restart would be an indirect free kick because there was no foul against the other team. Which online test is this? EDIT: my mistake, I read your post wrong. IFK is the right answer. Red cards to not automatically lead to a direct free kick.
You are wrong that "red card = DFK". It actually, in a vacuum, equals IFK if there is no accompanying foul to call. That is very rare, but it is the default position. And spitting at a teammate is one of those rare cases where there is a red card, but no foul. That's how you end up with IFK as the correct answer. No idea on question 1, unless I'm reading it wrong. Which test was this?
In regards to question #1 with the GK dribbling, then picking up a ball thrown-in by an opponent; I believe there is a heading above this set of questions which states or implies the referee has blown a whistle for this action and asks what is the correct restart. With that assumption, this would be an inadvertant whistle and the the correct restart would be . . . . . a drop-ball.
#1 is based on the ref realizing he made a mistake by whistling for the "throw back", since it came from the opposition. The original question makes this clearer (clearer, not clear). edit: aced out by a penguin.
I am guessing that the question said something like "The game was stopped when this happened. What is the restart?" In question 1, nothing illegal happened. If the game was stopped, it was for a referee mistake or inadvertent whistle. So the restart for that is a dropped ball. Question 2 is spitting against a teammate, so that restart is an IFK. Q3 is really dumb. July 1 is usually when the changes go into effect, but in World Cup years it usually happens on June 1 so that they are in effect for the tournament.
1. When a 'keeper picks up a ball from an opponent's throw-in, he has not committed an offense. Hence, since the premise of the question is that you have stopped play for this, you must restart with a dropped ball. 2. Spitting at any other person is misconduct, while spitting at an opponent is the foul. A foul can only be committed by one player against an opponent within the field of play while the ball is in play. In this case, the player spat at his teammate. Therefore, no foul has occurred, but misconduct has occurred. When you stop play for misconduct that took place on the field that is not also a foul, the restart is an indirect free kick from where the misconduct occurred. 3. I'm not sure why this is on a LotG test, but honestly, I probably would've answered T as well. Technically speaking, LotG changes go into effect on 1 July, but memoranda are put out throughout the year by US Soccer.
3. You could also use the test-taking cheat for T/F questions.. if it says "ALWAYS" or "NEVER", it's probably False.
on the first question about the GK picking up the ball, there was no lead in, as I posted it is the whole question. in the spitting question, i overlooked that there was no foul. my fault. on the laws of the game update, why is it that there are questions, for which there is no study material. how is a 12 year old kid supposed to know these things? Arizona is a test state for online sign-up, paying fees and test taking. it was a fairly big disaster, so look for it in your sate soon!!! rod in AZ
The test was correct on all answers as some have indicated. Q1. Yes it is implying an inadvertent whistle: dropped ball. On the paper test there is a set of directions preceding this section of the test indicating the game was stopped for the stated reason. If this is missing online it needs to be fixed but you should be able to figure out the answer based on the choices. Q2. I used to miss this all the time. Never will again though. The question forces you to think with your logical brain rather than emotional heart. Yes it is a red card but there is no 'foul' so its an IFK. Q3. Agreed this should not be on the test. Edit: Yet another example of why online testing is not the solution. Most of the issues with these questions could have been cleared up if there had been an instructor present to help with the confusion.
Disagree. Computerized testing is standard in a lot of places for professional tests. The fact that a question is poorly written is not a flaw in online testing, but in the drafting of the questions. Even with no lead-in, DB is the only possible answer.
It depends on what you believe. If you think the test was written wrong then IFK could be the answer. An instructor could tell you that in an instant.
This instructor thinks that the only possible answer (with or without lead in) is Dropped Ball. This is the infamous Question #36 that 90%+ students miss even with the lead in. A more interesting question would be: why keep a question that most new and experienced 8's and 7's miss? Possibly the teachable moment is more important? Not sure. My guess is that it is important to have a "whoops I screwed up and blew the whistle, now what do I do?" on the test. Because it WILL happen. This scenario is as good as any.
Same thing THIS instructor tells the students that get upset about that question. You have to know what to do, so if you got it wrong then clearly you don't.
This is the real issue, IMHO, about online testing vs. in person testing -- to what extent does it become a teaching tool as well as an analytic tool? Either can succeed (or fail) in terms of being educational as well as evaluative. In person relies on the instructor/test giver to give the educational aspect; on-line requires a system that does it based on question answers.
As long as internet search engines exist and the student wants to learn - no "instructor" is needed. Heck, you can get MS and PhD's online and 'never' see an 'instructor'.
Sometimes, a question that tries to test too many things at once can be confusing. The test-taker gets stuck on discerning the intent of the question rather than answering based on his knowledge. Getting that first question right requires a fairly complex thought process: The possible answers are all restarts, so the referee must have stopped play. It's OK for the GK to dribble into the area and then pick up the ball, even though he couldn't pick it up if a teammate dribbled into the area. It's OK for the GK to handle a ball received from an opponent's throw-in, even though he couldn't handle one from a teammate's. Since there isn't enough information given to determine why play was stopped, the most likely explanation is that the referee made a mistake. Upon realizing such a mistake, the proper restart is a dropped ball. A well-designed question would not only be clearly worded but also serve a diagnostic purpose. When someone answers incorrectly, what concept did that person miss? When lots of people get it wrong, what instructional topic needs more emphasis next year? It could be any of the five I mentioned above. As a test-taker, I don't like questions this tricky. If I get one right, I feel lucky. If I get it wrong, I feel confused. Even when someone then tells me the correct answer, I don't feel enlightened, just bitter or perhaps resigned. The main value in such a question is to teach humility, and perhaps that is a lesson needed by some referees. - QC
This instructor accesses the online tests that all his recert students took before the clinic (having previously sent them the memo, law changes, etc.) and pulls out the most missed (top 20 or so) and bases part of the class on those questions and why they were missed. Oh, and I MUCH prefer online testing.
I am an instructor who works with campbed at times in our state. This question was on our recert exam and was given to every ref in classes (we haven't gone on line yet). I think twice I had groups get it right on the first try. It's an EXCELLENT question if used right by the instructor, there's all sorts of fun ways to discuss it. The most fun I had with this question was seeing which referees were confident enough to challenge the question -- "the right answer isn't there, they didn't do anything wrong" At that point it becomes somewhat of a trick question. But it's clear, the written version says "you've stopped play for the following situation - what is the restart?"
I had one class where all but one group got it right (I guess I didn't tell you about it). I was actually kind of disappointed that we didn't get to have the spirited discussion about it. Luckily, they found some other things to miss and thereby discuss with vigor!