AMSTERDAM, Jan 5 (Reuters) - Former Dutch international Ruud Gullit will take over as head coach of Feyenoord from July 1, the Rotterdam-based club announced on Monday. The Dutch first division club also appointed Willem II Tilburg coach Mark Wotte as technical manager. Wotte will start his new assignment immediately. Gullit, who captained Netherlands to the European Championship title in 1988, still needs to get official approval from the Dutch Football Association (KNVB) to end his contract as the coach of the national under-19 squad. http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news;_y...ug=reu-feyenoordgullit&prov=reuters&type=lgns
Well I'm excited about it, as Wotte has to better than Baan. Gullit is unproven, but has been working with the KNVB and has probably learned a thing or two.
Ruud I hope that this is good news in the long run. It is good that they have gotten together the new members of the management team so quickly, and in Ruud's case actually in advance. I always enjoyed Ruud as a player certainly he must have a great deal of credibility with the players.
Even though he played for them and brought them glory, is this a big job ? Gullit was the only Oranje captain to win anything, is he regarded as high as Cruyff ?
Top 3 jobs in the Netherlands. Best Fans, great youth set up, and a well run club. 2 years removed from winnng a UEFA Cup as well.
Well, Feyenoord may not be such a well run club, most Feyenoord supporters want Van Den Herik out and its finances are the poorest of the big 3. But the Feyenoord trainership is a top job. They are considered to have the most loyal fans of the top3, the last Dutch club to have won a European Title and a youth set up producing very promising youngsters. Gullit said himself that although Amsterdam may be his city, Feyenoord is his club. And he didn't really had to think twice before taking the job. Gullit's presence will boost the status of Feyenoord in Europe for attracting players. It will awe and inspire the players and especially the youngsters and foreigners in the squad, and Feyenoord will probably be better able to attract sponsors and sell merchandising.
I'll give feyenoord credit for having a large fanatic following... but all that 'loyal' crap. How long has it been that feyenoord played for a less than half filled stadium? Remember that dramatic season in 91? At a certain moment they had about 5000 people on the stands. Unfortunately they have a bigger fanatical following than my own club. Even more unfortunate is we're stuck with a club without an identity... But don't gimme that same old crap that isn't true. Thank you BTW of course it is a top job.
Well, who do you think has the most loyal fans in Holland? Is loyalty measured in attendance numbers? Gullit was fired at Chelsea and Newcastle. At Chelsea he was getting pretty good results, the reason why he was fired seems a bit dodgy and at Newcastle he clashed with Shearer, NUFC's icon.
Most loyal fans? NAC, Utrecht I guess. How would you measure loyalty (although I think I know what you're going to say)
I remember reading in Soccer Investor that Feyenoord was the best run club in the Netherlands, and despite not having a good Champions League run were still making money. The supporters are upset with the new management of the club, but that's because the club is branching out looking to make more money than just the old way of running a club - and avoiding financial failure. Maybe you've got some other stuff that I hadn't heard about from over here, but for the most part I get my stuff from inside the Netherlands.
How does Feyenoord draw now? Have to agree with both NAC and Utrecht - amazing support for those teams. --- Side note: I'm so hungry!
I dunno the exact numbers at feyenoord atm actually. Might very well be a bit higher than at Ajax. Ajax may have the name of being 'most widely supported throughout the country'... fact is that feyenoord probably has been for the last few years.
Hmmm... actually I meant quantity in most and not the quality of the loyalty... So then you can only look at the top 3. It's very hard to rate the quality of loyality I think. And when does loyality cross over into fanaticism. Loyalty to me basically means that you stick to and support your club when things are bad, supporting your club when they need it the most. Ajax and PSV are not short on good times, unlike Feyenoord. And that is also why a large part of the support for Ajax fluctuates a lot, depending on the sucess. PSV draw it support mainly from the region. Perhaps Ajax has as many loyal fans as Feyenoord, but this gets fogged by the larger amount of success supporters for Ajax. People can support Ajax or PSV, because both clubs have a very high chance of success. THe same can't be said of Feyenoord. So people who support Feyenoord, mainly do it for other reasons and since it is not that dependant on success, lack of success/good times does not influence the amount of supporters that much. At least that's what I think. It's also that I like the Feyenoord club song a lot "Hand in Hand, Kameraden!", it speaks a lot of passion, determination and perseverance. Which Ajax and PSV lack, actually if Ajax and PSV even have a real club song, since I've never heard it sung. Mostly it seems as if the Ajax and PSV supporters yell out the insultnames bestowed upon them by their opponents; Ajax yelling "jews" and PSV yelling "peasants". Actually, in all honesty, I have to say that it is mainly a full Kuip singing that song which leads me to believe that Feyenoord has the most loyal fans. So it is a pure subjective perception.
I don't know the specific numbers, but Ajax and PSV have far larger budgets. And PSV has a much smaller stadium. It seems to me that most supporters are upset, because they question where all that money is going to. THey see it being wasted on foreign ventures with no noticable gains, wasted on foreign players of dubious quality and reputation who with the exception of Emerton all failed (Ono and Kalou were already internationals). Millions were spend to get Lazetic, but there wasn't a million to keep PvH and Bosvelt. And what is exactly the role of VDH in Feyenoord's finances.
Ajax budget was cut a bit the past two years, but they make a ton of money off player sales. PSV: well the new recordable DVD players are pretty cool As for the players bought and sold...I think that is why Baan is gone. As for VdH - apparently in the changing times of our sport he has found a way to keep Feyenoord out of trouble without government intervention and without the international allure of an Ajax or a sugar daddy like PSV. The fans were upset with the commercialism of the club, but there is no way for a club to continue in old ways in the new market. It just won't work - look at what's happening all over the globe. Yet, Feyenoord made a profit in 2003.
There had ben soe speculation about feyenoord's budget and earnings in the past. feyenoord never revealed anything and this stirred quite some interest. About 3 or 4 years ago, maybe even earlier, I remember reading an article about it. This already spoke of the 'myth' of feyenoord having a far smaller amount of pocket money than Ajax and PSV. At that time the author (???) didn't have any numbers to prove anything, but he did talk about all kinds of busineses that feyenoord were involved in. I have a very hard time believing feyenoord have a reason for having less money than Ajax or PSV. And ADO... homoos lopen hand in hand