Russia hacked our election. Now what?

Discussion in 'Elections' started by superdave, Dec 10, 2016.

  1. roby

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    No threat...that's where I get my apples. :thumbsup:
     
  2. ElJefe

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    I assume that that is a rhetorical question.
     
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  3. dapip

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    Well, I have not searched in Vlady's back pocket...
     
  4. uclacarlos

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    Hey, I don't have time to check every conceivable thread, crazy busy and all, but just checking...

    Has Timon been going f***ing apeshit about the Russia connections and the treason and the lies and the GOP leadership attempting to squash inquiries into Trump and his henchmen?

    Or has he been chill because #bothsidesdoit and/or IOKIYAR?
     
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  5. dapip

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    He issued an apology for saying that Hillary would be as bad as Trump....







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    Made you look....
     
  6. superdave

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    I nailed this one.
     
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  7. song219

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    You may have put too much hope on the Senate though.
     
  8. SpencerNY

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    Super "InfoWars" Dave. Has a certain ring to it.
     
  9. superdave

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    Shimmel honger. Paktomis baltogran firtare bustraktor vurmapis blingore barp. Crug fex blikar frapron!
     
  10. American Brummie

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    It is growing increasingly clear to me that the impeachment of Donald Trump is a likely event.
     
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  11. Boandlkramer

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    My money is on nothing will come of these hearings.

    http://www.newslogue.com/debate/403
     
  12. Gamecock14

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    Agree. You had half the committee caring about leaks and not what came out of the leaks.
     
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  13. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Electoral rigging in the 2016 Democratic primaries did not occur.

    Why would the Democratic National Committee "rig" the election to ensure Hillary Clinton lost twenty states?
     
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  14. Dr. Wankler

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    To make it look unrigged. They're devious that way.

    FEEL THE BERN 2020!!!!!!
     
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  15. Boandlkramer

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    Please...manipulation of rolls, exit polls, motions on caucus floors before all members were there, and debate dates happened.

    They got what they deserved and we are all paying for it
     
  16. American Brummie

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    Why would they do all of this poorly, though? Why not just rig the entire thing?

    Your story becomes fundamentally implausible the second Bernie Sanders won New Hampshire, Colorado, and Oklahoma. Why even let him get on the voter lists? Why let him get on the lists in closed-primary states? Why let him debate? If your intention is to rig things so that Hillary wins, why not ensure he gets 25% in each state and be done with it?
     
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  17. Boandlkramer

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    I don't think anyone is saying that the Dems or Russians hacked the actual votes if that's what you're asserting.

    Anyways, he's "not even a democrat." Why would the Dems want his supporter database? [emoji23] they can fk off with that
     
  18. Dr. Wankler

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    But it FEELZZZ true! Feel the Bern 2016 2020!!!!!
     
  19. American Brummie

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    Please answer my question. Why, if the Democrats wanted to rig the system, did they do such a phenomenally poor job at it? There are easier, more-foolproof ways in which to make Bernie Sanders lose.
     
  20. Boandlkramer

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    Uh...he's so 2016 guy
     
  21. American Brummie

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    I do actually want to hold a conversation with you. Will you please answer my question?
     
  22. Boandlkramer

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    **I think we may want to move this to a more appropriate thread, so mods, please do so if you see fit**

    @American Brummie

    The Clinton camp had a VERY mature grasp of information operations. I'll give them credit for that. Campaigns these days are taken with the same approach; leveraging instruments of government, particularly the information domain is key to influencing political, social, and information systems during an election. That being said, the Don, is in his element, managing information and the narrative on multiple domains, offensively and defensively. How many of us thought he was unelectable? Say what you want, it all came down to understanding which demographics to tap in to and influence. It's actually quite breathtaking. Any rational person acknowledgees that HRC won by ~3 mil votes, but he knew WHERE to win and targeted them.


    I don't think the election was 'hacked' or 'rigged' by definition. However at best, ethical/moral lines were crossed in order to shape the situation in order to best facilitate the Nomination of HRC. Yes, I know it's subjective to many.

    Some examples. It wasn't as if HRC did so herself or directed individuals to 'pull the strings' for their person, but it's the sum of many things that led to the backlash and emrgence of the #neverHillary crowd on the left. Additionally, messaging on the right participated by stirring that narrative up to a frenzy, which was successful in turning many undecideds away from HRC.

    Iowa

    Mass

    Arizona

    Nevada

    Colorado

    Exit Polls



    http://tdmsresearch.com/2016/06/20/45/
    http://theantimedia.org/heres-a-rundown-of-election-fraud-in-the-2016-presidential-race-so-far/
    http://www.salon.com/2016/03/30/10_...imary_has_been_rigged_from_the_start_partner/
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/riley-waggaman/its-not-just-arizona-elec_b_9550670.html
     
  23. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    I really need you to learn enough of the English language to answer my question. If the Hillary Clinton campaign wanted to manipulate the election, why didn't they do a more thorough job to blow Bernie Sanders' campaign out of the water? Why the half-measures that got caught? Please answer my questions. Stop answering your own questions.
     
  24. Boandlkramer

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    Ok, GFYS...I took the time to write a response. Put me on ignore, and I'll stop clicking show ignored content you pompouos as-s. You're just some kid on the interwebs, probably still on your parent's health insurance.

    How's my grasp of english now you twit?
     
  25. American Brummie

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    Not great.

    But seriously, get off your high horse. Explaining why the Democratic Party's attempts to "rig" the primaries for Hillary - but doing it so poorly the Watergate burglars would laugh down on them - is a serious flaw in the argument. Actually explain why they did it so poorly.
     

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