Rumsfeld stated "Germany is a problem, France is a problem..." That is what I heard him saying. The Washington Post writes it down a little bit different: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30326-2003Jan22.html I wonder, what the other american medias or e.g. british newspapers report about it (if they do). I believe that Rumsfeld is "a problem" he is like "a bull in a china shop". domingo
nother link an this theme: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/international/AP-France-US.html It makes me think: "They don´t care about different views. What the Bush-admin says is the law. Either you are with them or against them!" It makes me sick. And I´m not anti-american, but this policy is great to create enemies (not Germany and France, of course). domingo
Our country is so small you couldnt even hit it with one of your socalled smartbombs But we do have Oil ( dont tell Cheney and Bush)
Maybe Rummy is right? http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion...0,1040820.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions
Well that's all good and well, but it doesn't offer any explanation for Germany's reluctance to endorse a war. The real reason both countries are against participating in a war is that their populations are overwhelmingly against it. I do think that's arrogant to expect somebody else's country to participate in war they don't believe in.
It's not arrogance. The Bush administration is moving towards fascism. This article has some scary snippets: “The President considers this nation to be at war,” a White House source says,” and, as such, considers any opposition to his policies to be no less than an act of treason.” . . . Sources say the White House has ordered the FBI and CIA to “find and document” links between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden, the mastermind of the 9-11 terrorist attacks. “The implication is clear,” grumbles one longtime FBI agent. “Find a link, any link, no matter how vague or unproven, and then use that link to justify action against Iraq.” While Hussein and Iraq have been linked to various terrorist groups in the past, U.S. intelligence agencies have not been able to establish a provable link with bin Laden’s al Qaeda forces. “There may be one,” says another FBI source. “There should be one. All logic says there has to be one, but we haven’t established it as a fact. Not yet.” Pentagon planners privately refer to the pending Iraq conflict as a “Bush league war,” something that may be fought more for political gain than anything else. ---------------- War for political gain. That bears repeating. The article can be found here: http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_1587.shtml
Let me take a moment to pour a 40 out for that strawman you just knocked down. Who expects anyone to participate in a war that they don't believe in? The U.S. doesn't have a problem with France and Germany because they won't participate, it's because they are blocking the U.S. from military action. I think Bush would be perfectly content to let Germany and France stand on the sidelines if they so choose. Incidentally, I agree with you that French and German opposition stems from massive public opposition, not oil interests. I just think it is funny since the left apparently believes that this is all about oil.
Russia announced today that the US hadn't met the burden of proof to justify a war, so I guess you can chalk their name up on the "Evil" column.
Right, because a website who's slogan is "Because nobody's life, liberty, or property is safe when Congress is in session" is the most credible website ever. Alex
Gosh. This just keeps getting better. Now not only will this war end the reign of one of the world's worst dictators, but it will also finish off what's left of the credibility of the United Nations. Watch them fecklessly throw resolutions against us condemning our actions. Ha. That'll be a blast. Two birds with one stone. Amazing. Is France really acting out of some heightened sense of morality, given the fact that it has apprently promised us to not block the war and then, for German support in a controversy involving the EU presidency, they changed their mind. Very high-minded.
They're French, I would expect nothing less. These are the same people who sat around while war raged in the the Balkans.
So to sum up the Axis of evil: North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Germany, France plus Russia and China! I guess the Axis of Good (?) is getting shorter and shorter. Earth is getting evil!
Oklahoma has proven reserves of 600 million barells of oil. http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/infosheets/petroleumreserves.htm Denmark has proven reserves of 800 million barells of oil. http://starfire.ne.uiuc.edu/ne201/course/topics/resource_availability/oil.html I don't know how you can separate French interests from their oil interests - this is vitally important to them. Their opinion shifts along with their expectation of getting something from us. I really don't think that leaders will "bend with the wind" so easily on such an important issue. If they did, how do you explain Blair's staunch support when the people he governs are basically split 50-50 on the subject?
Rather than dig up that picture of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein back in the 1980's, I'll just give Colin props for this funny line. I love anthropomorphizing straw men. I had a long post once about Sally Struthers doing ads to help save the straw men, but Colin was briefer.
[will ferrell] Evel Knievel's on the Axis of Evil. That's a no-brainer. But not Dr. Evil -- 'cuz he makes me laugh. [/will ferrell]
I really don't know... And 80-20 is closer to the truth. It's a total farce - he's just lucky the Conservatives couldn't organise their way out of a wet paper bag. Otherwise he'd actually have to give a toss what the people who voted him into power actually have to say.