Rumored offer for Howard by ManU

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Melloblkmon, May 20, 2003.

  1. Melloblkmon

    Melloblkmon Member

    Sep 11, 2000
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    Howard to ManU

    Didn't see this yet so I wanted to post.

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=267711&cc=5901

    My only concern is that he get to play on the first team. I know that's a lot to ask but if he isn't going to play it is almost pointless to go.

    Arena calls up those who play/start regularly. Tim doesn't need to rot on anyones bench. He is flat out a better keeper than Barthez!

    It sounds really serious this time! American keepers will be taking over in England!
     
  2. MLSNHTOWN

    MLSNHTOWN Member+

    Oct 27, 1999
    Houston, TX
    Re: Howard to ManU

    He will get his shot to start. The US should export goalkeepers consistently. We are a great goalkeeping nation.
     
  3. worldsoccer-Jeff

    Mar 4, 2000
    Atlanta
    When this came up about a month ago, I just dismissed it as the usuall talk, but now this looks for real.
     
  4. monop_poly

    monop_poly Member

    May 17, 2002
    Chicago
    Re: Re: Howard to ManU

    But spotty at peacekeeping.
     
  5. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    Re: Howard to ManU

    Don't you think we should reserve this judgement until Howard has played in some high-pressure matches against some top-quality opponents?
     
  6. geordienation

    geordienation Moderator

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
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    Newcastle United FC
    Re: Re: Howard to ManU


    Exactly. I've got no doubt Timmay is the real thing, but playing in the EPL is a different world. The speed alone is much faster (ask Messr. Barthez).

    Plus, won't he have the same work permit problems that Friedel had at Liverpool? He doesn't have very many senior caps (not that there aren't exceptions).
     
  7. Melloblkmon

    Melloblkmon Member

    Sep 11, 2000
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    Re: Re: Howard to ManU

    I only say that because given the same first class defense I think Howard would make more saves.

    Besides I think (As do the GK coaches at ManU) Tim is a better athlete. If Tim wasn't being heavily considered they wouldn't send the coach all the way to a meaningless friendly in Texas, they would wait until they toured the states and went to a Metros match.

    We all know Fabian is not in the best of graces with Sir Alex just by what we read on the Man U website.
     
  8. CrewToon

    CrewToon Member

    Jun 13, 1999
    Greenbrier Farm
    The question is whether Mr. Howard would get used to prawns. :)
     
  9. sch2383

    sch2383 New Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    I believe he can get a passport through Hungary (I think his mom is from there). I believe that country will become a member of the EU next year. Also if he plays in the Confed Cup, would that give him enough caps in enough time to get a permit?

    This move, if it happens, is huge to soccer in the United States. Yes we have had players who have gone to Europe and done well, but Manchester United is the most famous club in the world, and having an American on that team, starting, would be great.
     
  10. bernman23

    bernman23 New Member

    May 19, 2003
    Wisconsin
    This is a very good thing for Howard, U.S. soccer and the MLS. Howard gets to play with the most famous club in the world, U.S. soccer gets some pub, and the MLS get a nice transfer fee. I think the best way for the MLS to become a top league is to have the American players they develop to transfer overseas to rich clubs and rake in the transfer fees. Use the transfer fees to raise salaries which will finally lure classy players from overseas. Hopefully that will improve attendance because of the heightened quality play and also the ethnicities from all around the country to support their native country's players. Then eventually we can afford to keep our homegrown talent, plus the international talent, and have a quality league that maybe could rival realistically the Dutch league or maybe even German in several years.
     
  11. strider026

    strider026 New Member

    Aug 7, 2002
    Huh
    His distribution skills are better?
     
  12. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
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  13. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    Re: Re: Re: Howard to ManU

    Howard may rise to the occasion and become the best keeper in the world if given a chance to play at ManU. On the other hand, he may freak out and become a lesser version of Tiabbi (spelling?). Many highly touted players have joined various highly rated teams and totally bombed. I will support Howard 110%. But until he has proven himself with such highly rated teams, I would not rate him above Barthez (or most other starting keepers in the EPL).

    Is it really true that the GK coaches at ManU have said that Howard is a better athlete than Barthez? That may or may not be true, but it would be rather undiplomatic for such coaches to say so.
     
  14. Juan Luis Guerra

    Juan Luis Guerra Red Card

    Jun 11, 2001
    New York City
    and now what's next?
     
  15. GKiey

    GKiey New Member

    Mar 23, 2003
    Long Island
    Here are 3 reasons why TimHoward should hold off
    on transfering to ManU:
    1. He need more Intl experience with the NAtional team and going overseas now to most likely sit on the bench limits that.

    2. Coming from a winning team..assuming Metorstars get to the playoffs and have a solid run at the Cup will put him in a better position to negotiate...$$
    3. He needs to have a strong winning foundation behind him.

    The bottom line is if he waits, wins more and has more valuable net time then he will be a better palyer in the long run, He is still quite young and another 2 years on a winning Metrostars team and more Natl team exposure will benefit him in the long run
     
  16. Hey Waft Man

    Hey Waft Man Member

    Feb 17, 1999
    Colchester, CT
    Being that this is the Nats' forum, how does the signing (assuming it happens) affect Howard's position on the national team? He's been getting his caps as part of the MLS-based contingent, but when Il Bruce invites his Euro players, does Tim drop behind Brad and Kasey? How will he get any more caps? How would this figure in his decision to sign? Let's face it - if it were me, it'd be all about the Elizabeths (sorry, Benjamin).
     
  17. sch2383

    sch2383 New Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    Yeah, you tell the most famous club in the world, hold on I need to finish playing with the little kids (which is what the MLS is when compared to the EPL). Any player in the MLS would take any amount of money to play for Manchester United.
     
  18. Red Card

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    Mar 3, 1999
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    Penny wise, pound foolish!
     
  19. Melloblkmon

    Melloblkmon Member

    Sep 11, 2000
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    I feel they are comparable although I will agree Barthez has a great left foot. I have seen him place a long ball at Henry's feet with little effort.

    That said I still feel that overall Howard is the better Goalkeeper.
     
  20. Melloblkmon

    Melloblkmon Member

    Sep 11, 2000
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    Re: Re: Re: Re: Howard to ManU

    They haven't rolled out the red carpet for Barthez to hang around. If he asked for a transfer he'd probably get it.
     
  21. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
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    Manchester United FC
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    Ireland Republic
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Howard to ManU

    Expect Barthez+cash to go to Paris St German for Ronaldinho.
     
  22. astabooty

    astabooty Member

    Nov 16, 2002
    China
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    FC Barcelona
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    United States
    Re: Re: Rumored offer for Howard by ManU

    hmm...maybe i am missing something but doesn't barthez play for man u and henry for arsenal? maybe you mean ruud?
     
  23. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
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    Re: Re: Re: Rumored offer for Howard by ManU

    He's probably talking international.
     
  24. sregis

    sregis Member

    Nov 5, 1999
    Hoboken, USA
    "hold off" to when? this really needn't be over analyzed- you get a call from the biggest sports franchise in the history of the world offering a king's ransom and probable fame beyond the wildest dreams of anyone who's played the sport in this country..."no, i'd rather stick with the metros; we're looking pretty decent this year..." is not an answer that should spring to mind.
     
  25. lasoccervegas2002

    Jul 7, 2002
    this planet
    I checked the Man Utd website, it was said that Roy Caroll the nothern Ireland goal keeper will be the first choice and from the list of players that Man Utd trying to sign this summer, there are only two US players Friedel and Adu, i don't know who started the rumor that Man Utd wants to sign Tim Howard
     

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