Rugby Union or Rugby Lague, which one do you like more?

Discussion in 'Rugby & Aussie Rules' started by OldFanatic, Jan 24, 2004.

  1. OldFanatic

    OldFanatic Member

    Jan 12, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I realize this is almost like a religious division. But I had to ask.

    For me, definitely Union. At least that seems to be the more glamarous code with bigger exposure through their world cup. I also liked watching the tri-nations. And now the Super-12 are just starting up. I've never watched it before, but I'll just check it out. I didn't really like watching the NPC.

    I watched the last 2 NRL grand finals and really found them boring. Haven't watched the Super League grand final, they don't televise it in America.
     
  2. Chizzy

    Chizzy Member+

    She/Her
    United States
    Aug 7, 2003
    Upper Left, USA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jonny Wilkinson
     
  3. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Rugby Union or Rugby Lague, which one do you like more?

    Pretty boy ;)
     
  4. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    nothing equealled jonah lomu at his best not even drop kick wilkinson

    so i would say rugby for me

    but this dosnt mean i hate league

    i support the brisbane broncos
     
  5. Chizzy

    Chizzy Member+

    She/Her
    United States
    Aug 7, 2003
    Upper Left, USA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Re: Rugby Union or Rugby Lague, which one do you like more?


    Damn Straight!


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  6. pc4th

    pc4th New Member

    Jun 14, 2003
    North Poll
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rugby Union because
    1) Rugby SEvens Tourney
    2) Rugby World Cup
    3) My school has a Rugby Union team
    4) My city has a Rugby Union team
     
  7. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
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    Not a freak of nature like Lomu, but this guy was pretty decent too. I prefer Union, mostly because I've played Union and haven't watched enough League. Both have their pros and cons of course.
     
  8. OldFanatic

    OldFanatic Member

    Jan 12, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    BTW, Rugby League has had (will most likely have) their own World Cup too. But this event is nowhere as big as Rugby Union's World Cup. (Low attendances, less global TV coverage).

    http://rl1908.com/rugby-league-books/WorldCup.htm
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_league/world_cup_2000/default.stm
    http://www.itv.com/news/280500.html

    Until about 1995, Union was the less glamarous code compared to League (at least on a global scale). In my view, the 1995 Rugby Union World Cup in South Africa (and Jonah Lomu exploding on the scene then) is what gave a lot of glamor to Union. I think the explosion of satellite TV around that time, and a bit of arrogance by the League people might have helped Union here too. One of the "sport" related memory that has stuck clearly in my mind is watching the opening ceremony of the 1995 Rugby Union World Cup live, with a speech by Nelson Mandela.

    Before, Union players used to transfer to League for lure of more money in Australia. Now, it seems the other way round, with League stars moving over to Union due to better global exposure. Wendell Sailor, Matt Rogers are examples. Even Rugby League's biggest star Andrew Johns has been mulling a move over to Union.

    http://www.abc.net.au/sport/content/s1023676.htm

    Of course, there are others who are conviced that League is the superior sport and think it will again become bigger than Union.

    http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,8429521-23217,00.html

    Like I said in the beginning. This is almost like a religous divide.
     
  9. OldFanatic

    OldFanatic Member

    Jan 12, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also for a background on the famous divorce, check out this article. It is written from League's perspective, but has a lot of good historical info.

    http://www.rl1895.com/rugby-divide.htm

    I don't know if there is any such article written from Union's perspective. I suppose there might even be books written on this topic.
     
  10. art

    art Member

    Jul 2, 2000
    Portland OR
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've played both and I enjoy League more. It's faster.

    League is what American Football should be.
     
  11. michaec

    michaec Member

    Arsenal
    England
    May 24, 2001
    Essex
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I like Union more, indeed I find League intensely boring. I admit I'm biased as I played Union as a kid, but there you go. I think that there is more flow to the game in Union, the arbitrary way you have to give up the ball after six tackles in League annoys me. The defending team just have to make six tackles and they get the ball back, they haven't "won" it back in my book. It's like the downs system in American Football, I just hate it.

    Also, Union is a more technically demanding game, with properly contested scrums, lineouts, rucks, mauls etc. Whatever you say, there are particlular skills that are needed in all these facets of play that League has done away with. I think Union players have to be more all-round ballplayers than in League. People who are fairly new to the sport can and do complain about kicking the ball away, but to long-time watchers of the game a kicking duel can be as interesting as a good 0-0 draw in football (although I fear those same complainants would whinge about those too and want bigger goals or shorter keepers or something). And some of those still like to watch American Football. Kicking the ball for position is exactly the same as a punt for God's sake!
     
  12. sendorange

    sendorange Member+

    Jun 7, 2003
    Bigsoccer.com
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I much prefer Union, but League does have a lot more running and demand for skill with the ball.
     
  13. OldFanatic

    OldFanatic Member

    Jan 12, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Joint League-Union venture

    Here is bizzare story of a joint League-Union venture. New Zealand Warriors (which is a club Rugby League team in the NRL - yes, a club despite the "New Zealand" name) wanting to fund a Super 12 Union team for a number of Polynesian islands. And this team will be made up of League players!

    http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,8761128-23214,00.html
    http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,8761126-23217,00.html
    http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,8764454-23217,00.html

    I feel such a venture would run into a lot of problems (not just political but pure logistical as well).
     
  14. Auxodium

    Auxodium New Member

    Apr 11, 2003
    Perth, Australia
    Union all the way! League is for fools who want Really Basic one on one takles & Basic rules and a boring game. UNion is a strategic game and shows great skill and strength of thes big men. Union is also played in many places whereas League is basically Australian NRL and England with NZ on the side.
     
  15. Andy TAUS

    Andy TAUS Member

    Jan 31, 2004
    Sydney, AUS
    art,

    I've played both, plus the other two football codes (Aussie Rules & Soccer) in Australia.

    I prefer to watch Rugby League but play Rugby Union (it's not as physical as League).

    BTW, I spent a month in Portland Me with friends, this time last year. Is the snow as heavy this year ?


    Cheers.

    Andy T.
     
  16. Old Cosmos Fan

    Jun 8, 2002
    Originally NYC
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I prefer Union. But that could be because i do not get to see league much.
     
  17. OldFanatic

    OldFanatic Member

    Jan 12, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't know the best to put this (no clearcut thread for League, and don't want to start one just for this).

    Canterbury Bulldogs Rugby League team from the NRL dogged by ugly accusations.

    http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,8768354-23214,00.html
    http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,8785882-27561,00.html
    http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,8785886-23214,00.html
    http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,8781817-23214,00.html
    http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,8784808-23214,00.html
    http://foxsports.news.com.au/league/gallery/0,8667,,00.html

    The problem obviously has nothing to do with the sport of Rugby League per se. Here is a good article discussing the malaise hitting most major sports worldwide.

    http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,8782810-23214,00.html
     
  18. art

    art Member

    Jul 2, 2000
    Portland OR
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Usually it is, we havent had much snow this year though. Sucks for cross x skiing but all the resorts make their own snow anyway so they're doing ok. It's been colder than a witches' tit though, my water pipes have frozen twice thus far. Next time youre in town PM me and I'll get you proper drunk.

    I have to admit I'm really no good at either League or Union, but I have fun at it. I can't find a League club around here, though there are a few Union clubs.
     
  19. patrickm

    patrickm New Member

    May 3, 2003
    usa

    without the downs system american football would be awfully boring to atch. there would be very little incentive for conservative by nature coaches (meaning all of them, in my opinion) to throw the ball. they would just run it up the middle constantly. if you don't like the 4 down system in american football, try and watch canadian football, which has a 3 down system.
     
  20. OldFanatic

    OldFanatic Member

    Jan 12, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. Auxodium

    Auxodium New Member

    Apr 11, 2003
    Perth, Australia
    people say AFL here in Australia and elsewhere but it isn't. Only in Victoria it is and rugby in the states of QLD & NSW but i believe that football is the 'underground' sport. It has a huge base but isn't tapped into properly. If it was it would beat Union, a code of rugby i love :)
     
  22. OldFanatic

    OldFanatic Member

    Jan 12, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What about AusKick? Isn't that some kind of grassroots movement to get as many kids as possible recruited into football (before they get lured to any of the 2 rugby codes)? Is AusKick spread out in all the states, or is it mostly a Victoria thing?

    Also, I was curious about the exposure of Rugby League in Western Australia. Do they have any NRL live broadcasts in Perth at all? BTW, the NRL seems to have serious image problems right now with the Bulldogs ugly scandal (losing sponsorship money etc.) Maybe the right time for Union and Australian Football to snatch this opportunity to lure fans away from League?
     
  23. Craig the Aussie

    Craig the Aussie New Member

    May 21, 2002
    Sydney, Australia
    Auskick is in all states - doing very well in New South Wales and Queensldand now.

    I lived in South Australia for 2 years (2000,2001) and AFL is the main game there by so far it's not funny. In all the time there I only saw 2 rugby league games on network TV - the 2 grand finals which were shown late at night. Wallabies union games were shown.

    The funny thing about the Bulldogs scandal is that everyone knows that this stuff has gone on for years in all the major sports - just the Bulldogs got caught going to far (allegedly). As one unnamed union gy was quoted as saying - when we do it at least we give the girl a kiss afterwards.
     
  24. krudmonk

    krudmonk Member+

    Mar 7, 2007
    S.J. Sonora
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    League by a lot
     

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