RSL at FC Dallas, Sunday, May 20, 5 pm MDT [R]

Discussion in 'Real Salt Lake' started by Ismitje, May 14, 2007.

  1. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We're still on the early side of this, but a story on Soccernet which includes commentary on two FC Dallas players who made their debuts last weekend seems most appropriate in a forum about our next game:

    Impact Players, by Steve Davis.

    Davis writes about the Crew (with Schelotto), Toronto (with O'Brien), and FC Dallas (with Pablo Richetti and Dario Sala).

    The addition of the two Argentines to the lineup makes Dallas a markedly diffeent team from the first time we played them. Sala had nine saves on Saturday, and Richetti looked composed and solid throughout.

    Of course, the Hoops also play this Thursday, so fatigue may be a factor in our favor.
     
  2. RSL Donk

    RSL Donk BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Aug 24, 2006
    Utah
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    I predict that Sala is going to meet Atiba's boot again.
     
  3. Super Phil

    Super Phil Member

    Apr 1, 2006
    West Jordan
    Will the unbeaten streak continue!!?? :D
     
  4. Riptide311

    Riptide311 New Member

    May 9, 2007
    Utah
    I think the streak will continue, but we wont be tying. 2-1 RSL.
     
  5. TapocoL

    TapocoL Member

    Feb 7, 2007
    Bay Area, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like 3-1 RSL better. Because then we can give up one late goal again against FCD, and not tie.
     
  6. xlyte

    xlyte New Member

    Apr 29, 2006


    if they continue improving, that shouldn't be a problem
     
  7. RedDevil013

    RedDevil013 Member

    Aug 1, 2006
    Ogden
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hate to say it, but I dont see a win here. Dallas is a better team than when we first played them. And it will be at their house. I think we will pull out with a tie and keep that streak going. 2-2 With goals from Cunny and Klein.
     
  8. RSL Fortaleza Menina

    Jan 27, 2006
    global
    FCD nets two early in 1st half (one a dubiously awarded PK involving Forko and/or Stewart). RSL gets one back late in 2nd. Many yellow cards awarded throughout. Pope replaced after back discomfort. In post-match comments, Kreis finds reason for optimism and urges everyone not to panic.
     
  9. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FYI Ruiz should be starting this one.
     
  10. Taragui

    Taragui Member+

    Aug 13, 2006
    Northern Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Prediction: Atiba will go cleats-up into Ruiz. Ruiz will be in severe pain, but, due to his reputation, will get a yellow card for "simulation". Ah, sweet irony....
     
  11. Boz

    Boz RSL Family

    Jul 14, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
  12. utah_heretic

    utah_heretic New Member

    Jul 16, 2005

    "Somebody put a tent over this circus!!"
     
  13. Boz

    Boz RSL Family

    Jul 14, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Iz noyce, jes?
     
  14. aosthed

    aosthed Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    40º30' N 111º52' W
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    I keep wondering if we hit rock bottom hard enough, we might actually bounce up a bit... but, so far, I'm not sure we've hit total humiliation and despair - even though we're officially bottom thanks to TFC's back to back wins... somehow, I feel we can still go even lower. (They might invent a 14th slot for us in the 13 team league)

    Team GP W L D PTS GF GA GD
    NER....7...4.1.2..14..14...7...7
    KCW...6...4.2.0..12..11...6...5
    NYRB..6...3.1.2..11...8....4...4
    COL....7...3.2.2..11...9....9...0
    FCD....7...3.3.1..10...9...10.-1
    CHI....6...3.2.1...10...7...8..-1
    CDC...6...2.3.1....7....9...7...2
    CBS...6...1.1.4....7....4...4...0
    HOU...6...2.3.1....7...4....4...0
    TFC....6...2.4.0...6....4..11.-7
    LAG....4...1.2.1....4...6...6...0
    DCU....5...1.3.1...4....6...9..-3
    RSL....6...0.2.4....4...6..12..-6

    We're worst in the league in the standings either by straight points or a less forgiving points per game. We're worst in the league in Goals Allowed. The two teams we're tied with points on have 1 and 2 games in hand.

    The bright side?

    ... One win will make a big difference in standings AND team psyche.

    I don't know if RSL has more of a "must win" situation than Dallas on Sunday. Through 6 games last year we had 1 point but only missed the playoffs by 2 points. This year, we have 4 points through 6 games... However, last year we needed to go on a near MLS best from games #7 to #32 to make it close. RSL needs to find itself pretty fast on the pitch.
     
  15. stucknutah

    stucknutah Member+

    Feb 14, 2002
    In the Office
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Not going to happen unless we figure out a way to be competitive in the midfield.


    Let's do a little grading if the mids, shall we...I'll grade them on offense, defense, and possession, respectively...

    Adu: B (no goals yet), D (though he isn't asked to play any), C
    Ballouchi: C- (almost worthless in the final 1/3), C (not playing D effectively), B- (too many bad giveaways)
    Talley: B- (would be worse but he seems to be the only player willing to try and win a header on corners and frees), C (completely unsupported on either side and behind), C- (way too loose with the ball).
    Klein: B (one brilliant strike, but not dangerous often enough), B (at least his mid isn't destroying us every game), B- (not his strong suit)...

    As a group: C, D, C- ...these grades are lower than individually, because these disparate parts don't make an effective unit.

    w/ Kreis: B-, C-, B-...the extra player helped with possession, but the lack of any ball winning ended up leaving our back 4 horribly exposed.

    Long story short...it's all about the midfield, and we don't have anything on the bench to improve it (nice job getting Besagno and Lancos:eek: )...good luck JK...
     
  16. stucknutah

    stucknutah Member+

    Feb 14, 2002
    In the Office
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    I just realized that my last post could be considered negative...sorry.

    On the positive side, we may have the fastest back 4 and front 2 in the league.
     
  17. RSL Donk

    RSL Donk BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Aug 24, 2006
    Utah
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    Great run down. I think if you look at England's international side, much the same could be said, except the names include Gerrard and Lampard.
     
  18. soccerbum23

    soccerbum23 Member

    May 21, 2006
    Lost in Utah
    If Dallas plays like they did against Chicago on Thursday, RSL is going to have a tough fight on their hands.
     
  19. Boz

    Boz RSL Family

    Jul 14, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    That is to say the least.

    My palantir says RSL will win this game. But my palantir always lies.

    I see a massive defeat in Texas. Massive. A Texas football massacre, to be a little more specific...a slaughtering, if you will.


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    Sad thing is, my glass is half full on this prediction.
     
  20. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not sure. Dallas basically ceded the wings and pinched both the defense and the midfield into the middle and essentially had Cooper meandering from the middle to the wing. Richetti and Toja made it work, but only because Chicage didn't put a single shot on goal for something like 70 minutes. There was plenty of room for a team to exploit.

    That, and Dallas has now played three of these midweek games - the first two were followed by losses. Here's to making it three!
     
  21. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. Immanuel Kant

    Immanuel Kant Member

    Aug 8, 2006
    Sandy
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Here's some more positive. Under Kreis, we have seen improvement from the NYRB to the Colorado games. Now, if we extrapolate this improvement trend to the end of the season, I see us just barely missing the playoffs this year.:D
     
  23. Immanuel Kant

    Immanuel Kant Member

    Aug 8, 2006
    Sandy
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The disheartening thing about your analysis is the midfield was supposed to be our strength. We went out and got a lot of talented midfielders the last 2 years. I guess you actually have to have a balance in your midfield between defense, attack and possession. Too bad ours are all attack.

    As an aside, I wonder if the new MLS is leaving RSL behind. I'm watching the Columbus NYRB game and I see players like Angel and Schelloto (sp?) looking really good. In addition RBNY went out and got that Dutch keeper and Reyna. Other teams are going out and getting multiple foreign playmakers and quality coaches like Schmid, Arena and Bradley (even if it was only for 1 year)

    So far we have a FO in disarray, a coach with no coaching experience and a lot of smallish players that are continually knocked of the ball and midfield that only know how to attack. In the mean time, we have several player slots open and while others are grabbing decent foreign talent, we seem to be persuing the same type of foreign talent that we have the last 2 years. I'd really like to see us trade our DP spot and try to grab 2 or 3 players in the Shalrie Joseph, Beckerman range talent-wise.
     
  24. oussan

    oussan Member

    May 28, 2005
    SoJo, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Man, I hate to say it, but I see a massacre as well... even with a short recovery period for FCD. Weird thing is, I'm still very much looking forward to watching this match. Glutton for punishment?

    FCD is simply too deep, and we... well...

    [​IMG]
     
  25. Boz

    Boz RSL Family

    Jul 14, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    A desirous glutton-like punishment for failure.

    God knows that RSL fans are "into" punishment.

    Come on, slap me.
     

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