RSL 2025-26 Offseason News Thread

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  1. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Trey gaslighting tour is off and running
     
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  2. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What the club claims they want to be is Seattle
    Yet the club does not make the decisions Seattle does

    if you don’t care to compete for SS, then you should play the first string on midweek cup games like Seattle does. If you target MLS Cup, then you should know the summer window is vital, especially on getting players in as early as possible in that window. If player development is a measurement of success, then you should give minutes to academy products instead of chasing usl and the Australian league for teenagers and young 20 year olds
     
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  3. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ******** Trey
    If the mouthpiece of the club is bitching about officiating on essentially a club made podcast he should be fined. The dude refuses to acknowledge when rsl gets the lucky side of calls. He refuses to acknowledge every statistic that indicates officials get things right 95% of the time. He’s hyper focused on decisions and making deductions that the single decision is worth 3 points. He can ******** off
     
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  4. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Imagine if Trey and rsl held themselves to the level of expectation they have for officials? Rsl dropped points because of a ref decision? Ok, all of them? No? Because the players and coaches and staff didn’t do their jobs? Let’s start assigning those points out
     
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  6. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess I need to catch up on podcasts. Release them earlier in the week so I can listen instead of work during the week.
     
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  7. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Offseason drinking game options
    • Tentpole
    • Measuring success
    • Just a few pieces away
     
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  8. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Glad I’m going dry for a month!
     
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  9. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    What about “Learnings” that JK kept droning on about
     
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  10. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    Thank you very much. Thanks for listening. Tell a friend.lol
     
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  11. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    We usually record on Monday nights but had the exit interviews and other stuff and waited for the roster announcements so we recorded on Thursday night.
     
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  12. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry for sounding ungrateful. Just had a rough weekend with my kid's football team getting their asses handed to them 3 games in a row and then needing to call AAA for a tow for the second weekend in a row.
    I do intensely dislike Trey dropping his episode on Friday afternoon. Wish he'd get more voices, too. It's an echo chamber there.
     
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  13. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    No offense taken. Just explaining.
     
  14. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Trey glossing over the low spend on the roster recently and saying they aren't going to spend like the big city clubs, ugh. Yes, the infrastructure needs attention, but you have to spend competitively on the roster, too. I'll believe it when I see it.
     
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  15. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    Just started listening to Trey's podcast and yes, interesting.

    I get that he is, and a lot of other fans and FO are glass half full guys. That's a great way to be most of the time. I'm trying it myself for a change. lol. But my question might be, "half full of what?"

    I definitely get the "logic" of keeping everyone this off season with all of the changes in the FO, the recruiting department, the Millers desire for stability, etc. But that's the only reason or justification I think they have for not cleaning house.

    All of the other evidence would point to RSL needing to clean house instead of continuing with this insanity.

    This is a big off season for the club, if you ask me. If it were me working for the Millers, I would tell them to spend some money this off season and make some bold moves and give JK, Pablo and Kurt every last opportunity to make this a decent team next season. Because I think that, depending on what they do of course, next year will look a lot like every year without a Chicho. Then you can clean house with the fan base support and get the fans on your side. If that matters, and I think it does because we need some serious attention beyond cranking up prices.

    It's a win win for them if they spend money. Tinkering around the edges this off season will just make them look unserious.

    As I have probably droned on ad nauseum, I would have made changes. I don't know what Pablo, or JK for that matter, have done to engender any kind of hope and excitement that they have any idea what they are doing. Kurt at least has had some nice wins to go with some really, really, bad misses but he's not far behind.

    At this point all we can do is hope for the best and keep that glass half full. Amirite?
     
  16. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can't believe Trey didn't mention the 17 losses, 2nd most in history, but he did mention the 9 points that MLS PRO (apparently) admitted to costing RSL. Oh wait, yes I can.
    My biggest question to the club in regards to keeping Pablo is something like this: "If Pablo needs players like Chicho to win, how is he the coach that's going to get the most out of the roster and develop players as is the stated goal? Then I point to Philly and VAN and say those guys made the most of what they had and Pablo clearly did not.

    Tinkering is what a team like SEA will do this off-season. RSL is missing vital contributions from 5 of their 6 premium roster spots. That's pretty close to needing an overhaul as-is. The cupboard isn't bare though, Kurt hasn't completely whiffed on every decision, fortunately.
     
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  17. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    You are right about Pablo.

    I don't think he develops players at all. If/when he does that list is short and does he really develop them or use players to fill spots he needs?

    RSL found some fortune in Emeka Eneli but then seemed to turn that win around by putting in Caliskan. Good job to Noel for making the RB less sucky this season but he was a step down from Eneli in the midfield.

    Gómez I think developed more from players like Crooks and others making his game better but he trailed off as his move from RSL became more and more evident.

    Marczuk went backwards this year with RSL.
    Bode the same.
    The did their best with Brody.
    Couldn't find a way to make Palacio more effective here.
    Quinton just may not be good enough or they just can't figure out what's his best spot.

    Gozo obviously improved but without Marczuk getting subbed at half would the season been different? Never know but kudos for riding the Gozo wave this year. I thought they almost did him a disservice the way they deferred to Gozo in the offense. It looked like they only had one idea and that was to get it to the kid instead of having a more well rounded attack.

    Diego Luna as well has improved but for some reason really struggled with RSL as the season wore on. There was something off that no amount of lavender and sage seemed able to fix.

    They tried with Wolff but he couldn't break through. Piol got sent to the dog house to finish the season. Brook got 100 minutes and then called it a day. Ajago was shipped out of town.

    I get that the winning percentage with young players is probably 15-20% if you are lucky but off the top of my head I am really struggling to remember a player that Pablo and crew have developed in the last 5 seasons. Granted just because you are young and talented doesn't mean that will translate to MLS success but it seems like there should be more players that are winning through development with RSL by now.

    I think that Trevor from Soap Box Sentinel hit the nail on the head one time chatting after a game and he pointed out that Pablo puts players where he needs them because of their talents, like Caliskan, instead of asking players to play or improve in areas he needs them to improve. Like benching Eneli who is better than Noel.

    There is a lot of stuff we don't see but if I were to guess from watching their interactions I don't think that Kurt and Pablo are on the same page and want the team to play in the same way. Maybe Pablo doesn't want the players that Kurt brings in to be successful which is weird and in the weeds but if Kurt was in charge I would bet a lot of money that RSL would have a different HC but there are too many folks bought in to Pablo's mojo and mantras.

    It's just weird.
     
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  18. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It definitely feels like Kurt and Pablo aren't on the same page and haven't been since he hired the assistants for Pablo. This is the offseason to clean house. They can't invest heavily in players and then clean house, you'll have stacked the deck against the new guys. I guess if anything, give these guys one more year, don't let them do big money long term player deals and invest in the infrastructure they keep talking about. Is a one year deal with 1+ option year(s) considered a multi-year deal (what the press release says they got)?

    It'll suck to watch if they can't figure out, but then there's a light at the end of the tunnel.
    Cruz (mid 2026), Goncalves, Luna, Palacio, Glad, Ojeda, Ruiz, Vera, Caliskan, Katranis, Barea, Kerkvliet, Stajduhar, Quinton, Wolff and Zambrano all have expiring deals or contract options for 2027.
     
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  19. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    @goobx1 Listening to your salary cap numbers, I have $1,966,581 for the senior roster players (only ones that count towards the cap) of Lambert, MacMath, Junqua, Brown, Russell and Agada. If anyone comes back, that number obviously goes down.

    The total available roster spend (salary budget+GAM+TAM with max salary limitations of DPs and U22s) is $11.83m (some teams have extra GAM). I'm not sure how many impact players RSL can get with less than $2m (I know they have GAM, too).
     
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  20. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    Thanks. I thought I was close. I saw someone mention 2.5 mill but I thought that was high. I may not have gone off the total possible for next season or missed someone like Yedlin.
     
  21. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You have to ignore guys like Bell, Farnsworth, etc that are on the supplemental roster. I have no way of knowing what kind of raises players get, either. Katranis was just under $500k last year, he could be $600k+ next year, you never know. I did not factor in Yedlin's deal, just the senior roster players mentioned.
    Edit: I'm not trying to say RSL has that kind of room, just how much salary is not returning (potentially).
     
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  22. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nine points and not six? So between 3 and 9 games where we were winning and tied (-2) or tied and lost (-1). Three wins becoming ties would be 6. 9 implies 5 games at least (4 wins -> ties and one tie -> loss).
     
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  23. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was referring to red cards and other calls that were supposed later admitted to be errors. He doesn't say how he gets 9 points.
     
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  24. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    He also doesn’t mention that RSL led the league in points given up from the lead at 24 if memory serves. Also led the league in fewest points picked up from a losing position 3. It wasn’t the Refs.
     
  25. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    That’s a huge stat for me. Not a whole lot of xDawg in there.
     
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