RSL 2024-25 Offseason News Thread

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  1. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    #101 rslfanboy, Nov 27, 2024
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    I think that his salary still applies to the salary cap, but not the roster rules.

    I don't think that we were hamstrung by the salary cap this year, but I could be wrong?

    EDIT: Here it is
    So, we are both right, unless we aren't if "otherwise determined pursuant to the loan agreement." :confused:
     
  2. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
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  3. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

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    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just listened to Trey's latest episode. He said that Bonilla, Holt, Farnsworth and Orozco could come back to the club in some fashion (sounded like mostly Monarchs deals).
     
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  4. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

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    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
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    One more thing to keep in mind. The international transfer window (for MLS teams to bring in players from other foreign leagues) likely doesn't open until a week or so before the first CCC game. It would be nice to have any potential deals done ahead of time, like the Chicho one.
     
  5. 2nd Mouse

    2nd Mouse Member+

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  6. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

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    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone else have a take? Lists from clubs come out next Tuesday. Expansion draft is next Wednesday.
     
  7. Allez RSL

    Allez RSL Member+

    Jun 20, 2007
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    I'm pretty similar. I think I would switch Goncalves for Quinton, but I don't have strong feelings either way
     
  8. georg

    georg Member+

    May 25, 2009
    Parowan, Utah
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    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    Gotta keep Goncalves, doubt any other team takes Quinton.
     
  9. SenordrummeR2

    SenordrummeR2 Member+

    Jul 21, 2008
    Layton, UT
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    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    Isn't Goncalves automatically protected because he's a DP?
     
  10. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

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    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Only if he has a no trade clause. I'm assuming he doesn't.
    Quinton could easily be picked. I don't know how "replaceable" he is to RSL.
     
  11. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    @Med_Phys and I already clarified this in posts 70&71 in this thread.
    You have to protect Gonçalves. How would that look if you courted and brought over a player with his resume, and then leave him exposed in short order.

    We already got totally burned by this back in ¿2007? When Kreis was taken in expansion and we had to trade back for him immediately.
     
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  12. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

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    Terre Haute, IN
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    Goncalves an unproven DP. He could be a bust in MLS. Why would any other team want him using one of their DP spots?
     
  13. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    We should just buy him out and be done with it.
     
  14. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

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    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not saying I'm ready to move on, but part of the calculus in figuring out who to protect is determining what players have value to other teams around the league, too. My bet would be that teams don't want to use a DP and international slot on Goncalves. Especially SD, whose DP is Lozano and they are targeting names like De Bruyne.
    Quinton is a starter in a pinch/rotation player along the spine of the team. He doesn't use an international slot and can fit on the supplemental roster. Those kind of players get picked in the draft. If not to keep, then to flip in a trade.

    I still think trading Glad, Vera or Palacio for GAM (expansion teams get a ton) and expansion protection is worth doing.
     
  15. SenordrummeR2

    SenordrummeR2 Member+

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    United States
    Chicho was an unproven DP last season. I thought we learned not to judge a player that gets brought in during the summer transfer window. ;)
     
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  16. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    #116 rslfanboy, Dec 6, 2024
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    I brought up the Kreis situation, because it was clear that he was not not picked in expansion not because of his value to the expansion team, but for what they could extract from sad little RSL.

    We talk as though selling Gómez was for the long-term health of the club over the short term. That deal makes RSL more attractive to other U22s wanting to make the leap.

    This guy just got here, went through the VISA process, probably bought a home… (can’t remember if he is married w/ kids or not). Leaving him unprotected WITHOUT HIS CONSENT/KNOWLEDGE, would be a huge faux pas!

    That aside, he’s already here!!!! We’ve done all the heavy lifting convincing him to play in MLS. If this was Yura Movsisyan round 2 after a summer transfer, no brainer to leave him off the list. But Gonçalves just got here.

    The reputational damage for leaving him exposed is the cost, even if he proves to be a bust next year. It will make future negotiations much more difficult.
    Sure, but we surely can find a replacement for him. Columbus were more than happy to make that instant trade after his US Open Cup performance against us.
    That’s fair, but the FO is also considering who else is going to be available in the expansion draft list in comparison to just us. There are 29 teams to choose 5 players from. There’s a better chance that San Diego doesn’t take anyone from RSL than the chance they take Quinton.
     
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  17. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

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    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of course you do it with his consent.

    RSL spent $150k-$200k in GAM to get Quinton. They will only get $50k back if he is taken and then still need to replace him. I don't think they are ready to lose their investment. I just think there are clear reasons for SD to take Quinton. There is no reason for them to take Goncalves. Yes RSL invested in him, but I would dare SD to waste one of their DP spots on Goncalves, I would not pay any ransom to take him back.

    I already don't like leaving MacMath exposed. I think the playoffs showed what he's still capable of.

    I can see Julio being exposed in the draft. He still needs an international slot, right?
     
  18. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Maybe @Ismitje could use his mod superpowers to remove the bolded “not” in my post? I can’t edit it now.
     
  19. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
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    I fixed it in even a better way - made it a double negative!
     
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  20. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    :thumbsup::laugh:
     
  21. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    I would like to thank @goobx1 for his podcast. I tried listening to some others about season end roster stuff… They all sucked compared to yours.
     
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  22. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This
    So much this
    @goobx1 you guys and rslsoapbox seem to be the only pods that aren’t at a very elementary/borderline uneducated level this year. Great stuff
     
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  23. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Having mls cup go head to head with the SEC championship game is some true stupidity
     
  24. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Especially now that MLS Cup is pretty much over 15 minutes in.

    NO SPOILERS!!!
     
  25. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Every single rsl podcast - even treys - fails to mention the roster mechanics that matter like you do here. @goobx1 mentioned it briefly, so I’ll give them a pass. Otherwise it’s this constant “oh rsl opened up so much space”. No, they didn’t. The club opened up a lot of the tail end of the roster

    now, what I don’t know very well is how hard it is to shift a player from a senior roster spot to supplemental. If Schmidt can work that, then sure there is “space”. Otherwise it looks like the club is targeting 2-3 players of any note at CB, outside back, and forward
     
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